So long as it occurs in the multiverse, then LT would still take it based on your explanation, correct? Reality warping and conceptual manipulation can easily defeat Giorno, and I'm pretty sure Marvel has enough of that. Characters Battles Teams Super Powers Forum Feed Collections. Link for proof: https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111302904/5815812-4044943104-latest), Living Tribunal (The abstract, cosmic embodiment of multiversal law and order, and the collective manifestation of all existence, alongside all lesser abstract entities. 0. Da. Actually let's pull some scans, don't seem like you are going to agree without it. That right there declares who’d win... As I said, dimensions don’t even apply to Oblivion whilst Beyonder is merely infinite-dimensional. Consumed. @ginman333: And as for the location, tbh it doesn't matter. (Cuz there are none.) And Beyonder was said to be only infinitely-dimensional. The Living Tribunal's power is virtually limitless, as the entity prevents the Infinity Gems from being used in unison, although it remains subservient to a single, even higher entity referred to as "The One Above All" (not to be confused with the celestial also called the One Above All). Obvilion, however, is not. (Oh and HOTU Thanos "existed" in 2003 I believe. ). This means it is infinitely superior to all the other abstracts, including The Living Tribunal. For example... Knights from Medieval Times are subject to their king's authority, and yet they are more powerful than said king. . Here is a good analogy: If a lower dimensional being suddenly shifted to a higher dimension and came to our planet, that’s like them saying the President of a country would be powerful enough to outclass a martial artist or boxer in combat because that martial artist would have to abide by his orders/commands. Because I already covered that LT was only above him in the cosmic hierarchy, which I already discussed. Speed. Some of it does, but it isn’t a power hierarchy. It, as Oblivion, existed before the multiverse existed. I have consciousness of what I am. Has Oblivion received an amp of late? As regarding LT, you really must have difficulty comprehending this... You must be one of those Marvel noobs who takes everything and imply it to mean another and then abide by that point and never change your reasoning. The One-Above-All & The One Below All vs Team The Living Tribunal. Scans about what? I'm pretty sure reality and spacetime warping powers are still contained to power levels. Not sure how to take ideas like "Oblivion is nothingness and hence superior to LT because, erm, I say so" as a credible argument from someone who understand these characters in question O_O. (Cuz there are none.) He can probably be stopped by lesser people unless GER does just straight stop anything that it can sense fast enough happening to it i.e. While Gold Experience Requiem saved Giorno from the effects of Made in Heaven, it doesn't appear to have global range or anything of the sort. Strength. It only states that LT’s only superior is TOAA, once again referring to THE COSMIC HIERARCHY. I don’t normally answer questions like this but I have decided to make an exception. Goku is wicked strong and it would take an idiot to deny that. This includes even more powerful entities. This "space" in which there is no dimension can be the background for any dimensional space. Has Oblivion received an amp of late? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Is oblivion not the counterpart of death? Not sure why people keep referring to Beyonder and Molecule Man, the were indeed beyond Living tribunal way back during Secret Wars 2. There isn't a person the one above all couldn't easily beat because he is above every character that exists in marvel. It has also been indirectly mentioned quite often, once during Infinity Crusage and once during Marvel Universe: The End. The Beyonder is still merely a manifestation when compared to Oblivion. Also, you weren’t even referring to the government-like heirarchy which makes it even better, because Oblivion is boundlessly above Death thus deeming that statement unusable as Oblivion could do the same. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. This is due to them explicitly being referred to as manifestations of the Marvel multiverse, which is a construct of space and time, whereas Oblivion is quite beyond such limitations, according to his original definition. @claymore1998: It literally says in the scan that they are too abstract to contend with each other. To conclude, classic Living Tribunal is an infinite-dimensional high hyperversal being and Oblivion is an outerversal being beyond dimensions.

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