You know he loves to surprise you. [00:03:01] Benita: Yeah, one of the ones um, there was a father in New Jersey, whose wife had abducted their son to Brazil, parental abduction, which is when one parent takes the child, against the other parent's will to another country. Benita Alexander-Jeune started her career as a journalist for a few minor television stations. NEW YORK Dr Paolo Macchiarini, He Lied About Everything with Benita Alexander Armchair MBA 18K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.5K Share Save 128K views 2 years ago I chat with Benita Alexander. Alexander felt compelled to cancel the wedding, yet while she tried to figure out the extent to which Macchiarini had lied, she said she let him think they would still marry one day. Moreover, the Italian investigator found records showing that despite planning a wedding with Alexander for so long, Macchiarini was still legally married. Benita is the Executive Producer of the documentary film, He Lied About Everything, which premiered in the U.S. in 2018 on Investigation Discovery, and continues to be broadcast around the world. I did not think that by pulling that thread, we would completely undo the sweater.". ", Alexander, who waited in the car, said that the last time she saw Macchiarini, he had turned around and walked back up the stairs. And basically giving up everything. And she meets Christopher at his shop. She said she later sent a lengthy text message to him, and received a single-word response: "Wow! He's also never spoken publicly about his relationship with Alexander. [00:06:37] Bob: Dr. Paolo Macchiarini, he's doing surgeries that most doctors could only dream about. "He seemed like he was the miracle man," she said. [00:41:47] Bob: But not as scary as what happens next. Be sure to find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. During her investigation into Macchiarini, Alexander hired private investigators in the U.S. and Italy. She's a star producer for NBC News in New York, working alongside Meredith Viera creating primetime TV specials. She is currently the Executive Producer/Showrunner of the true crime series "Crimes Gone Viral," which airs on Investigation Discovery and is in its second season. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. How do we, how do we tell this story? But when it comes to the wedding, Paolo takes the lead. Some even believed he'd win a Nobel Prize one day, according to author Stuart Ritchie. [00:23:44] Bo Lindquist: Paolo was very well-dressed and very careful with his looks. "The surgeons in Turkey tried to repair it and there were some complications," said Rosemary Pinto, a personal injury lawyer later hired by Cetir's family. The scale . And I made it to this point. You know this man adores you. [00:30:37] Bob: So now that she's been told the Pope is involved, Benita has another secret to keep. But at this point, they're just questions. Alexander was in head over heels for Macchiarini. [00:15:28] Bob: As Hannah's story becomes more intense, the news on Benita's ex-husband, John, gets worse. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. [00:24:45] Bo Lindquist: I mean he basically said that he was going to revolutionize medicine, and, and not just invent a new kind of a trachea or a new kind of transplant, but actually revolutionize surgery. He spent months supposedly going to different churches in Italy, and he would send me pictures of these places, and all these details, and asked me if I liked them or not. The doctors also raised the issue that Macchiarini had reported on a patient in a way that suggested the patient was still alive, even though they had died before the paper was published. "The first thing we did was inform our boss, and then we also informed Paolo Macchiarini's bosses at the university," Corbascio said. But there was something, yeah, something happened between us the, the moment we met. The Karolinska Institute commissioned an external investigation into the allegations. Cetir died waiting for the lung transplant she desperately needed. And a very, very good listener and was giving me very wise, sage advice, you know, about all these questions; what to tell her, how to tell her, and I was sort of soaking it all up, and I was very touched by the fact that this man seemed so incredibly altruistic. Previously, Benita Alexander had created a documentary called He Lied About Everything, where she opened up about Paulo Macchiarini and how she got love conned by him. See production, box office & company info, Fatal Experiments: The Downfall of a Supersurgeon. Thats what I have the power to do now. Benita Alexander has been married twice. [00:23:07] Bob: The first time you met him was where? The group eventually grew into four doctors, who compared the journal reports Macchiarini had published about his procedure -- all of which reported relatively positive results -- to the actual medical records of those patients. One name kept coming up over and over again, Dr. Paolo Macchiarini. Alexander was assigned to work on the documentary about Paolo Macchiarini who has considered a pioneer in organ transplant. Lindquist said the documentary sparked outrage in Sweden, and weeks later, new investigations into Macchiarini began. In fact, he told me that Paolo would often leave their interview to engage in some frantic texting with someone, probably a lover, probably Benita. I mean not, not physically, but he could be quite uh frightening actually when he got angry. [00:11:57] Benita: Ooh, you're going to make me do math. In the most recent development, she narrated her story on ABC's The Con, so that more people can be made aware of such practices. And that frees up Benita to go public about their relationship. But before the wedding can happen, Benita makes a discovery that may prove the doctor is not all he claims to be. Documentary producer Benita Alexander thought it was love when her job introduced her to internationally renowned surgeon Paolo Macchiarini. With the preparations nearly finished, Benita decides to take maybe the toughest step she's ever taken in her 20-year career as a journalist. [00:04:24] Benita: Right, yeah, and they're not always happy endings, and you do, you, unfortunately, you know, you report on a lot of very, very difficult things in news. I was torn up about it, and my last day at NBC was in May of 2015. After a few days there, she traveled to Macchiarini's home in Barcelona, Spain, with some friends who came along for support. In early 1982, shortly before her 16th birthday, Benita returned home from a sleepover to discover that her mother had left the family in the middle of the night. He is Italian. And then John Legend was supposed to be playing piano in the church. A love story gone bad for Benita Alexander, an award-winning documentary television producer and Paolo Macchiarini, an internationally renowned surgeon. And I got so irritated with him, I actually hung the phone up on him. [00:36:07] Matthew Christopher: Confident, rico-suave, I am Paolo, ha-ha, and I'm like, okay, you know, I'm like am I nervous? Both have covered Macchiarini in their work. [00:42:33] Bob: When Benita comes to her senses, she switches back into investigative reporter mode, and decides to find out the real truth behind Paolo. I was like why, why are you videotaping me again. [00:38:37] Bob: But even without asking any questions, one thing is clear, this wedding is going to be big. And we rode for probably 30, 45 minutes until I sort of found a spot that I thought was appropriate, and I got off the bike and I went to the water. Benita was also the Co-Executive Producer and narrator for the 2016 TLC documentary, "Breaking the Silence," about sexual abuse. But despite his seemingly busy schedule, Alexander said Macchiarini offered to plan their wedding. [00:36:44] Bob: I feel like there's some people you meet who are simultaneously uh impressive but uncomfortable. An astonishing true story of love, betrayal and unimaginable deception. I want him to look around that courtroom and see the families of the patients whose lives he destroyed, and see my face and at last be forced for whatever few seconds to look us all in the eye and maybe understand what he did," Alexander said. And this is something very clandestine and secretive and he cant talk about, but hes been doing this for many years, and he is a celebrity surgeon to a number of famous people and celebrities, but that he cant talk about this because hes tied to people who want a private doctor who will attend to them but, you know, they have these private doctors, because they don't want anyone to know, you know, whats going on in their private life. And then every month there was a new surprise. You know, "You've, you've renewed my faith in love.". She couldn't run around and play. Benita Alexander-Noel was born on April 21, 1966 in Australia. Alexander, an award-winning documentary TV producer, met Macchiarini in 2013 while working on a story about the surgeon's pioneering work transplanting synthetic tracheas, or windpipes. She was even more stunned when she began to realize that so much of what Macchiarini had told her about his personal and professional life was a lie. And, and so we pivoted the story a bit to make it a little bit more about some of Paolo's other patients and more about, you know the field of regenerative medicine. There was no evidence the Obamas had heard of him, either. The Perfect ScamSMis a project of theAARP Fraud Watch Network, which equips consumers like you with the knowledge to give you power over scams. "I, to this day, have no idea why he lied about our entire relationship.". Macchiarini proposed to Alexander on Christmas Day in 2013. We had 300+ people coming from all over the world. Alexander was working on a documentary about Macchiarinis success in the medical field. He was dying and Macchiarini became someone Alexander could lean on. Where is Benita Alexander now? [00:04:39] Benita: I think one of the things that can make you a good journalist if, is if you're able to put yourself in the other person's shoes, and if you're able to sympathize with them and empathize them and really try to understand what it is they're going through. [00:17:51] Bob: Their relationship blossoms quickly. [00:05:44] Benita: Yeah, I mean the, we wanted to do a story about this field called regenerative medicine which added base core, the most simplistic way to define this is, it's sort of sci-fi, futuristic medicine where the, the goal is to be able to create body parts or organs in the lab, man-made. NBC News is pulling "A Leap of Faith" Meredith Vieira's documentary on controversial . Benita Alexander, an award-winning documentary television producer and single mother, shares her story in ABC's "The Con." ABC News At the time, Macchiarini was employed by the prestigious Karolinska Institute in Sweden. We had been divorced for a couple of years at that point and for three years, and he was diagnosed with glioblastoma which is a very, there's no good kind of cancer, no good kind of brain cancer, but the, you know, the outlook is not good, you know they, they kind of give someone two years at the most. "Paolo was a really good listener," Alexander said. And so does anyone who has anything to do with the wedding. Meanwhile, the doctors were still trying to save Cetir's life. Of course, it's Valentine's Day, I'm like, oh my God. Every time he took me on a trip, he just delighted in these, these big, over the top, elaborate surprises. "I couldn't fall apart because I am a single mother with a daughter who needs me. I mean, I got this sort of chill through my body, like there was some sort of electric spark, and I remember, in my head, thinking, 'What the hell was that?'". She is currently the voice of the true crime series "Still A Mystery" on Investigation Discovery, and she has narrated four seasons of this ongoing, multi part show. And I tend to be a very empathetic kind of person, and I am very sensitive, and I care a lot about people and so I've always used that in journalism to really sort of get inside somebody else's shoes or, or their story. And it was very difficult for us um, with the story because, you know, we had all hoped for one of these happy endings, you know, this was, the hope was to do a two-hour special, and at the end of it, you know, Hannah's home in South Korea, running around the backyard with her, her big sister, and you know, being a happy toddler as, as she should have been all along, and you know, Hannah was the most vibrant little girl. His work, if controversial, is also groundbreaking. It was going to be this four-day event in Rome, you know, with a red carpet event the night before the wedding, and a big brunch the day after the wedding, and people bought plane tickets, they bought fancy, you know, red carpet attire for this wedding. [00:23:20] Bob: Bo also spent many months following Paolo around the world, getting to know him, getting Paolo to open up to him. I was just kind of like, um, 'cause Benita's so awesome and like, you know she was totally in love with him. "As furious as it makes me what he did [to me and] my daughter, the thought that this is a man who has people's lives in his hands. View this post on Instagram And so there was a lot of palpable excitement about this wedding, you know, people were really eager and excited for this wedding. [00:01:54] Bob: Benita didn't start her career working for a larger network in New York. She had already spent good money on her wedding preparations. If you want to tell somebody's story well, it, it helps if you can really tell it from their perspective. This was, I didn't even know what to say. (Pasadena, Calif.) - This Valentine's Day, Investigation Discovery (ID) presents a love story gone wrong with HE LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING, the astonishing true tale of the love affair between award-winning investigative news producer Benita Alexander, and the brilliant, world-renowned surgeon Paolo Macchiarini.What started as a picture-perfect dream relationship between two people at the . On Feb. 14, Investigation Discovery, in conjunction with Efran Films, will premiere the astonishing and true story of love gone wrong in a new documentary special called, He Lied About Everything. This was worldwide. I don't want you to do anything except find your dresses and just, all you have to do is show up and look beautiful. Her multiple awards include: Edward R. Murrow, 2 Emmys, 7 Emmy nominations, Alfred I. duPont-Columbia, NABJ and Sigma Delta Chi. You know the, the invitations talked about needing a password, a secret password to get into the wedding, and you couldn't get in unless you had the invitation with you. When Benita discovers that her fiance is not who he claims to be, she goes on an emotional journey to unravel a trail of destruction that leaves patients dead and their shattered families in shock. Macchiarini.". Star-Studded Wedding Becomes Brides Worst Nightmare, Part 1, Journalist exposes her celebrity fianc, part 2, Computer hacker drains couple's life savings. I mean it was crazy. Then, one morning, she read in The New York Times that Macchiarini's colleagues at the Karolinska Institute had accused him of scientific misconduct and filed a complaint with the university. But, she said he was in a "foul mood" the entire time they were there as he dealt with the continuing fallout from the allegations. Hosted by Benita Alexander. "I talked to my editors and we started thinking, 'Well, let's just keep pulling on this thread. In addition to her work at NBC, she was the Executive Producer of the Oxygen documentary, "Seduced by Evil," which premiered in 2019 and reveals how a group of women banded together to take down the man who stole everything from them. They make it for you in the lab, right. What did he do this time?" Benita Alexander, an award-winning documentary TV producer and Paolo Macchiarini fall in love after meeting in 2013 while she is working on a story about the surgeon's pioneering w Show more. It has led to extensive reform work internally at KI in order to improve and clarify a number of regulations and routines.". Alexander said Macchiarini later called her, telling her he was at the Vatican and that he had some big news: Not only did he find someone willing to perform the ceremony but he said it was his own patient, the pope himself. Macchiarini took Alexander to several romantic getaways in Europe. By what name was He Lied About Everything (2018) officially released in Canada in English? Her first marriage was to fellow journalist John Noel. [00:24:07] Bob: For many months, Paolo plays his cards very close to the vest as Bo starts asking questions about the patients Paolo has worked on. And I was really wrestling with all of it. And he was putting artificial tracheas, the windpipe, into patients. From what we can tell, Benita still resides in New York alongside her daughter, where shes primarily a freelance executive producer for Lion Television, all the while serving as a public figure. [00:01:28] Benita: I grew up in Australia, and I had an uncle, my mother's brother, who worked for Radio Free Europe. I loved my life at NBC. With Whoopi Goldberg filling the narrators seat, the series kicks off with the story of Paolo Macchiarini, a former world-renowned thoracic surgeon now known for research fraud and his strange involvement with an unsuspecting producer by the name of Benita Alexander. Oxygen.com interviews filmmaker and reporter Benita Alexander, an executive producer of the 90-minute documentary "Seduced by Evil," about con man Derek Alldred. In the months leading up to the airing of A Leap of Faith, in June 2014, Macchiarini and Alexander went on trips to the Bahamas, Turkey, Mexico, Greece, and Italy. She graduated magna cum laude from WSU with a degree in journalism in 1987. [00:34:59] Bob: When you went to her house, was Paolo there? In 2019, the film was nominated in the documentary category for the WIN Awards, Women's Image Network. Which sounds a bit absurd, however, he is an Italian surgeon. Death podcast. She finds that story in South Korea. "From that moment on, it felt like my head was spinning," Alexander said, "and it didn't stop spinning.". Documentary producer Benita Alexander thought it was love when her job introduced her to internationally renowned surgeon Paolo Macchiarini. Benita was pursuing a big story when the ill-fated lovers met in 2013. The procedure uses the framework of a plastic tube lined with the patient's stem cells and is intended to help them replicate into a healthy version of the failing organ. Benita Alexander thought she had found her modern day Prince Charming. Benita Alexander grew up like a regular American kid. 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. [00:00:01] Bob: This week on The Perfect Scam. The Korean girl that had undergone Macchiarini's procedure in Illinois, whose story Alexander had been sent to cover, had died in the time following the surgery. Famous For Being an American actress and producer. Elton John was going to be performing. And after he left, I said to my parents, that's what I'm going to do when I grow up. I mean, and we didn't know what to do. People could be dying because of this man, and therefore, I couldn't stay silent, I couldn't crawl under the covers. He had told her, as personal surgeon to the Pope, the leader of the Catholic church wanted to marry the couple, she explained. Reality struck Alexander's fantasy romance eight weeks before she was supposed to marry Macchiarini in 2015, when she received an email from a colleague with the subject line saying, "The Pope.". Subtitles English [CC] Audio languages English Buy Season 1 [00:31:09] Matthew Christopher: Um, a couture wedding gown designer is someone that actually design gowns from beginning to end, whether that's draping, whether that's sketching; couture means it's handmade. Benita Alexander is a producer, director, writer, and narrator, who has actually been behind several episodes of ID's 'Now,' 'Dateline,' and even 'Inside the Obama White House.' It thus comes as no surprise that her professional success has given way to her confidence. If I had a checklist, he, he was everything I would want in a partner, everything you would want in a man. Click here to get breaking crime news, ongoing trial coverage and details of intriguing unsolved cases in the True Crime Newsletter. They become engaged and plan a lavish dream wedding, to be attended by celebrities and officiated by none other than Pope Francis himself. Instead, he says their underlying health conditions were fatal and may have been a factor in their deaths. But Bo at the time had no idea who it was. They got married in October 2012. Track SoCal rain with LIVE Megadoppler 7000 HD, Emily Whipp, Laura Dimon, Colleen Halpin, Emma Piscia and Anthony Rivas. [00:33:22] Matthew Christopher: Right. Benita Alexander has been working as a Macchiarini at NBC News. Maybe help me, help with the invitations 'cause I don't want to deal with that. [00:21:08] Bob: Benita is proud of her work and happy with her husband-to-be, excited to put the finishing touches on Hannah's medical miracle story, but before the piece airs, the story takes a dark turn. It defeats the point, Benita recently said. [00:21:22] Benita: Tragically, Hannah passed away, which was, um, just devastating. She was devasted to learn all the lies told by Macchiarini. You could uh, train stem cells so that, and then inject them into the body and the stem cells would do the work, the surgery, not the knife. He has been convicted of research-related crimes in Italy and Sweden. [00:18:02] Benita: Oh, there was so many. Benita graduated magna cum laude from Wayne State University in Michigan, with a B.A in journalism. Why don't you, can you just for once sit back and let somebody else take over, just let him, let him take it over." ", Jupiter and Venus appear to 'kiss' in the sky, What is graupel? We were sitting together on the, on the plane, and I just sort of started pouring my heart out to him, and he was a very good friend. [00:34:26] Matthew Christopher: You put your, I am going to make the most gorgeous dress you've ever seen. Star Benita Alexander-Noel See production, box office & company info Add to Watchlist 12 User reviews Photos Add photo ", "As devastated as I was and as much as I wanted to crawl under the covers and hide and stay there, I knew I couldn't fall apart," she said. The providers terms, conditions and policies apply. In 2019, she produced the Oxygen doc Seduced By Evil, which chronicles another con-man, Derek Alldred. You will be asked to register or log in. It said he'd be in South America and that the "trip had been planned for quite some time," Alexander said. [00:34:35] Bob: The first step is working with Benita on ideas for the wedding dress. Three months later, the Karolinska Institute ruled that while Macchiarini did not always rise to the level of its standards, he had not committed scientific misconduct. [00:30:34] Bob: Now your wedding is a cause. 5. Please return to AARP.org to learn more about other benefits. And, and then he would tell me the priest won't marry us, and this went on and on and on. How to, what do we do now? Alexander was working on a documentary about Macchiarini's success in the medical field. And Paolo had said to me, "You, you need to find a way to say good-bye to him," and he said, "I'll help you." "It said that he had a normal functioning airway," Corbascio said. [00:31:32] Bob: I mean that sounds like a very special process. In a 500-page complaint filed in 2014 that detailed their allegations, the doctors accused Macchiarini of promoting a medical procedure that showed few signs of success while endangering the lives of his patients. And she, unfortunately, was born with no windpipe. But our guest list was insane because now that the Pope was marrying us, he kept inviting all these dignitaries, you know, so world leaders were coming to our wedding. She was just like a little ray of sunshine, and a) I was just, it was so devastating when she didn't make it. They became friends and over time she felt herself falling for him, despite her journalistic integrity impeding the romance. And the two go on a magic carpet ride together. He also directed ABC News to a list of reforms the Institute was implementing in the wake of the scandal. And whatever that is, let's, let's push that away, you know. And he said, "Just tell me when you want to stop." In the meantime, please feel free The 56-year-old actually has a podcast appropriately titled Benita & the Berracas for the same, and she continues to be an active advocate on the matter. Macchiarini told Alexander he was having difficulty finding a Catholic priest who would marry two divorcees, but he told her not to worry, he would talk to his contact in the Vatican. The two-part special He Lied About Everything premieres on ID on Wednesday, Feb. 14 from 8 to 10 p.m. But on the afternoon that she met him, a day before she was supposed to begin filming him, something happened that gave her pause. After she called Macchiarini, furious about what she'd read, she began to wonder what else he might have lied about. Alexander then married, Edson Jeune, a ballroom dancer. She later tied the knot with a ballroom instructor Edson Jeune in 2012, yet even that didnt work out. And we got involved and started doing the story, and it got very intense. And each surprise was a bigger wow factor than the last one. The way he used stem cells with his plastic tracheas would eventually develop into something quite extraordinary where you could use stem cells to target organs or other areas of the body where the, where there was a medical problem. [00:02:15] Bob: Still a young journalist, she found her way to the top of her profession very quickly. Uh, I think he actually appreciated being challenged to an extent. And I also had my beard uh, uh, cut there. Which clearly would completely change the face of, of medicine and, you know, all these people that been told they have no hope or no chance, it, it would be, it would be a gamechanger, right. TV producer's romance with star surgeon begins against better judgment: Part 1Benita Alexander met Paolo Macchiarini while covering his pioneering work for a. And so I did, you know, I sat back, and even when I was tempted to ask questions, I didn't. 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