While held in an Elendel jail, Suit was visited by a mysterious creature with red eyes. He congregated a mass of approximately six thousand skaa men to become soldiers in roughly four months and sent them all to Yeden. Mare joined him there a few months later. When Lord Tresting attempted to rape a skaa girl, Kelsier saved her, killing Tresting and all his servants and soldiers in the process. Even with the strongest criminal team ever put together, Kel's scheme appears to be the absolute long shot. Kelsier is described to be a middle-aged man with hawkish features and light blonde hair. Aside from the Survivorists, there was also a whole civilization of people that worshiped Kelsier far to to the south of Elendel, calling him the Sovereign. This page was last edited on 27 January 2023, at 22:51. Throughout the course of the original Mistborn trilogy, he was been working behind the scenes to try to help Vins cause. Here is where Vin comes in. Kelsier would understand, but still disapprove of. The man tells a villager to "survive.". [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. Marasi Colms: An Allomantic Pulser (able to slow down time in a bubble around herself) and a constable in the Elendel constabulary. It is presumed that this is the Sovereign of the Southerners, who saved their people, declared himself ruler, and reorganized the social hierarchy. But were talking about the Lord Ruler, and he was standing up the whole time. If you dont like or understand it, again, move along. [21] There is a darkness to him that other heroes, such as Kaladin, would fight but that Kelsier instead embraces and is so ruthless that, in a fight with other notable people from the cosmere, he would be the most likely to win;[27][28] even Hoid considers him incredibly dangerous. , Marsh is Kelsiers older brother. Kelsier (aka The Survivor): Kelsier was the leader of the group of thieves who went after the Lord Ruler in the original trilogy, and was the person who recruited Vin. The hearts of men are NOT YOUR TOYS. He has been described by Brandon Sanderson as a psychopath. I find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is. (The Mistborn Saga #1) by Brandon Sanderson (Goodreads Author) 4. You just posted an irrelevant comment that was honestly a little hostile. [33] As a result, he has both regular vision and the steelsight that Inquisitors used, allowing him to see via both normal light and trace metals. The issue with a spear is if the metal head is all the way out of the body, and only the wooden haft is actually touching. Hmmm, he was flat on the ground from the Lord Rulers hit when he was stabbed. As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. Foopers. I want to know if it is relevant, because when things are relevant, they become not just interesting and thought provoking, but actually important. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. Cause I see what could be considered3 different theories in this one post. He tries to teach Vin to smile and occasionally look on the bright side of things. Will we learn more about him in The Lost Metal? Many years after the Catacendre, the cult which started after Kelsier's deception with OreSeur directly following his death has become a fully-formed religion. His cheerful exterior hides his doubts over Mare's loyalty, whom he continues to believe to have betrayed him until Vin demonstrates that it is possible to pierce copperclouds. They also have the technology to create powerful grenades and bombs, as well as medallions which grant various powers. This one is gonna be a RAFO for what his true plan is and if there is influence somewhere. He is stern and intense, but always smiling; anoth er act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. They went to the hideout themselves just in time to save Vin from Camon. However, he is then confronted by the Lord Ruler himself. We left off in TheBands of Mourning with Steris and Wax eloping. Killing Kelsier in a specific way wouldnt have changed or accomplished anything that he would care about. Might as well use that talent for the cause of good eh? Though he is killed by the Lord Ruler, he watches over Vin as a Cognitive Shadow. The Bands of Mourning follows our group of heroes as they begin a quest to find the titular Bands of Mourning, a legendary and extraordinarily powerful artifact. Kelsier: The Mistborn Survivor of Hathsin who leads the Ghostbloods. What are you actually theorizing. Allik Neverfar: A Southern Scadrian (specifically from Malwish), Allik is an airship crewman who was captured by the Set. Information about books that have not yet been released, like the other secret novels releasing in 2023 and Stormlight 5, is allowed only on meta-pages for the books themselves. TenSoon learned the location of his bones from OreSeur, and used them to convince the people of Luthadel to hide in the caverns after King Penrod was corrupted by Ruin.[41]. The Inquisitors' eyespikes poked out the back. MeLaan: A kandra who has been around from about the time of the Catacendre. In the following months, Kelsier himself took on many roles to further the plan, acting as a beacon to the repressed skaa, assisting in recruitment,[30] attacking many noblemen to increase the tensions between the Great Houses,[16], collecting information by purchasing it from informants, and even posing as an informant in order to provide misinformation to noblemen. We do it because we want to. Kelsier: The famed Survivor of Hathsin, a half-skaa mistborn who led a revolution against the Lord Ruler. He then "Snapped", becoming a Mistborn. We dont haveto do this. [33] As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. , When several skaa from the rebellion were about to be executed, Kelsier attempts to save them. Vin paused at her thoughts. After Holding and releasing the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier became a Sliver. Think of this article as one of those Last time on recaps at the beginning of a television show. Kelsier's own role takes advantage of his Mistborn training, allowing him to assassinate nobles, cause disruptions in the Great Houses and eventually ignite a house war that would tear Luthadel apart from within. His name and deeds passed into legend. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. The people who agree with it will simply agree. [34] This spike pins his soul to his bones. His late wife Mare collected pre-Ascension memorabilia, and he keeps one piece, a drawing of a flower,[7] to inspire his crew. I am not trying to shut this theory down as you would say, I am trying to understand the theory, because as you said, I want to discuss it,and your post telling people who dont understand what you are saying because you are so unclear are even more uneccesary, aggressive, and frankly very rude. Kelsier locates this skaa, whose name was Vin. His healing heals his spiritweb, so it's theoretically possible to use him as an infinite source of spikes.. Of course, the WoB about it just says that spiking Hoid would work very weirdly. Proceed with caution if you have not read this book. The spike is not coming with you when your Cognitive separates from the body. Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. Later on, a group of Southern Scadrians traveled north in search of the Sovereign's Bands of Mourning, but were captured by the Set, who decided to seek the Bands as well. .1 Global Archive Voiced Books Online Free No Naked Ads -> Here!Mistborn 01 mistborn, p. I had a similar reaction to theend of Lev Grossmans The Magicians. (Almost certainly on that score, lets be honest.) Despite having amassed enough wealth to live comfortably, Kelsier continued planning more heists, looking for bigger challenges in each. He claims that he smiles solely because laughter is the only thing that the Lord Ruler cannot take from him. He has a spike through his eye at the end of BoM. Clearly I am not the only one questioning the relevancy, (Thanks for the support btw @KalaDANG) and it is not to point out that I don't "like" the theory, I find it unlikely, and there are 2 main reasons: A. I don't understand what the theory is trying to say (Which might make my thoughts on the theory irrelevant). Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. As the Sovereign, Kelsier ruled the Southern Scadrians for a time and formed another religion that deified Metalborn, and then he left. Before the trilogy began, Kelsier was the greatest Crewleader any Skaa had known. Or does Sanderson have yet more secrets to reveal? [36] There he spent his time believing that his wife Mare had betrayed him to the Lord Ruler until he witnessed his wife being beaten to death by guards after she gifted her Atium bead to him. Be. Wax thinks that he might have connections to the Set. During the first year of COVID lockdowns, the creative collective SoulsForge developed Mistborn: Ashes Project:A collaborative proposal for a prospective AAA. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. Whats the point? [46], During his journey to find the Ire, he runs into Ruin and has a discussion about Ruin's intent. Kelsier would beat Kaladin in a straight fight as he is prone to using dirty tactics. The most notable of these is the rebel group governing Urteau,led by a man known as the Citizen. His other role involved using his reputation as the Survivor of Hathsin to inspire the newly-trained skaa soldiers. Travelling back to Luthadel, he begins to assemble a thieving crew to put his plan into motion. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. In the event of his death, Kelsier ordered his kandra, OreSeur, to ingest his remains, masquerading as a resurrected holy figure. He has an imposing presence and is a natural leader, easily taking charge and swaying even the downtrodden skaa of Luthadel into joining the rebellion with his charming personality. This is why I love Brandon. , After discovering the Eleventh Metal Kelsier started to prepare his plan by hiring the Kandra OreSeur. He offered to teach her about gold and atium, gave her the money he took from Camon, and allowed her to leave, as he didn't want to force anybody into his crew. The first glimpse we had of Trells influence was at the end of Alloy of Law in the form ofMiles Hundredlives dying proclamation: You are fools! Their relationship was the sort to where Gavilar was quick to believe that he was the one who ordered his murder. At the end of the book, Kelsier invites Marasi to join the Ghostbloods after her success in stopping Autonomy's army to which she rejects after much thought. After Kelsier died, when Vin fought the Lord Ruler, Marsh killed the other Steel Inquisitors in Luthadel and saved Vin's life. He is the central figure of the religion known as the Church of the Survivor. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. Telsin Ladrian (aka Lady Sequence): Waxs estranged sister, and a high-ranking member of the Seteven higher than Mister Suit. Now we are two Books deep into the Second Era and maybe i need to re-read them with more cosmere awareness but i cant remember any hints of a Cognitiv/Cosmereaware Kelsier . The elite of the underworld, each of whom had one of Kelsier's various abilities, were recruited. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. Marasi previously studied law and had a bit of a crush on Wax, but shes since moved on. That is like arguing with air. After Camon and Vin left, Kelsier realized that the ministry had already discovered that Camon was a thief and only played along to find the crew's hideout. And if we ignore that as well, Kelsier's cognitive shadow doesn't seem to have any of his mistborn powers so an extra hemalurgic power would likely mean nothing at that point. At the end of the book, Waxillium Ladrian is given a feruchemic coin by Hoid which stores the memory of a man with one eye and one hemalurgic spike, with arms covered in scars. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. All Im saying is that theres no way to definitively know whether or not the metal heads were still inside him. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. [19] After she and Elend are killed, Kelsier spoke with them before they moved on to the Beyond. The Inquisitor and some soliders followed Camon to find his hideout to wipe out his crew, but Kelsier lured the Inquisitor away by using his own Allomancy while Dockson took out the soldiers. I have to explain myself like, seventeen times. [22], Kelsier has an unknown Seon which he uses to commmunicate with his Ghostbloods on Scadrial. Theres always another secret, but well have answers to some as of November 15th! A discussion means you have twosides, and you literally just asked one side to leave and move along.. So i just finished Mistborn: Secret History and in the Postscribtum Brandon mentions that he as a very clear idea what Kelsier is doing and will be dropping hints again. Khriss mentions the Ire which sets Kelsier onto his next quest of finding their base of operation. He died at the end of the first book in the original trilogy but theres always another secret. Kelsier protested, earning himself a violent beating, whereupon he Snapped. Its probably not realistic though. Protecting you.Giving you power!, When Leras died and Ruin began to Splinter the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier used the Ire's orb to Connect with Preservation and Ascend, allowing him to protect the power and hold it until Vin could take it. We want to discuss this theory. He was the one who organized, the one who took all of the wild brainstorming and turned it into a viable operation. I am not yours. His best friend, Dockson, helps him follow up on Marsh's reports of a skaa with known Allomantic powers. What about this mysterious Trell? Vin expected that Kelsier would use his knowledge to control her, but to her surprise, he openly explained her the eight basic metals. [42] Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. If Kelsier orders a person around, it is a sign of affection. Sure, it makes it interesting and thought provoking, but I never said it wasn't. Kelsier is deified and continues to be venerated more and more by the skaa as the Church of the Survivor gains popularity. When that happened, after everything he and Vin went through, I was in a state of sadness for days. The book was first published in July 17th 2006 and the latest edition of the book was published in July 31st 2007 which eliminates all the known issues and printing errors. Throughout the course of the series, weve been following the underhanded machinations of a group called the Set. In Alloy of Law, we learned that the Set (through Mister Suit, Waxs uncle) was responsible for funding the Vanishers, a group who was kidnapping female descendants of the Lord Mistborn (aka Spook). This was changed by Vin who fell in love with Elend Venture. Kelsier is a fully trained Mistborn, despite his half-noble half-skaa ancestry. This isn't really a theory, I would just like to get the ball rolling on a discussion and throw that out there. [11] He hates all of the nobility and tends to believe that all of them are to blame for the plight of the skaa, although near the end of his life this attitude changes due to Vin's insistence that Elend is different and that not all the nobles should be fought, although his views did not fully change, and he retained his prejudice and distrust. Whats the point? Ranette: Waxs gunsmith and a Lurcher (iron-pulling). It is relevant because it has spawned 23 posts and created an interesting discussion. If you dont like this theory, move on. [56] He does not yet know the secret to overcome this limitation. Kelsier knocked out Camon with Steelpushes and gave control over the crew to Milev. The Lord Ruler has been vanquished. They go on several outings together, including fighting Inquisitors this leads to Vin almost dying however and changes how Kelsier runs the crew. They secure the Bands, but hand them off to the kandra for safe-keeping and broker a trade deal with the mysterious Southern Scadrians. Shadows of Self begins with Wax now working in conjunction with the Elendel constabulary. The spirit of Kelsier often appears in Spook's hallucinations, granting him the power to burn pewter and guiding him through difficult situations. [8], Kelsier has a Hemalurgic spike in his right eye socket,[32] which he acquires sometime after the Catacendre. This severely angered Kelsier and crushed morale within his crew, making them feel that they wouldn't be needed now that the army had been slaughtered. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? Kelsier's suspicions that Vin was a Mistborn were confirmed when he saw that she was able to burn zinc. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. [48] He ultimately only took a glass orb from them after thwarting their plan to take over become the Vessel of Preservation after Leras' death. See below for the whole section on Kelsier and what hes been up to behind the scenes. He is a half-blood skaa with a father from the noble class. As of the end of TheBands of Mourning, she is in a casual relationship with Wayne. It was Mare who gave Kelsier a drawing of a flower, a remnant of a time before ash clouded the sky and plants grew withered and brown. Hiding you. Then, in Shadows of Self, Paalm was using a spike supplied by Trell to gain Allomantic and Feruchemical abilities, as well as to remain invisible to Harmony. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. It is assumed that, based on his experience as a Misting crew leader that staged increasingly daring heists, he had broken into the Ministry building of Urteau and discovered the secret in the storage cache).

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