So since they are personal songs, you had to decide to say that. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And for a lot of folks, that can be the most boring part of the three-part string ensemble thing. And couple of lessons like that, he pulled out some fiddle tunes that he had been transcribing aurally from Frankie McWhorter. And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. 1,286 talking about this. I see you talking, but I cant hear a thing. Chris Tompkins, a high school friend who has co-written mainstream country hits including Carrie Underwoods Before He Cheats and Florida Georgia Lines Get Your Shine On, says Isbell seemed on a different level even back when they were covering Stairway to Heaven together. It is not trapped in your throat. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. And he was there for 25 years. And I was like, thats what I want to do, because you play this song. And I know that he likes to help. Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. And sometimes Tommy would show me stuff on guitar, like a melody to play, and then see if I could memorize it or retain it or whatever. SHIRES: I found that out for Christmas, Jasons merchandise guy, Chance, gave us each our family trees. I said, itd be cool if I was The Highwomen or maybe had a band The Highwomen. photos by @alyssegafkjen The attention hes getting for Southeastern, from the opening recovery track Cover Me Up and the brutally stark Elephant to the full-throttle raver Super 8, feels like its coming at the right time, after hed had ample opportunity to get good at what he does. The song is called Hawk For The Dove.. And sometimes, you know, you can, like, cup your hands and drink water from them or you could cup your hands and I dont know. And I dont know how I feel about that. Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. But theres a medication you can take that aborts the fertilized egg from your fallopian tube. Isbells first show after finishing rehab was opening solo for Ryan Adams in Perth, Australia, three days after he got out (two, if you count the international dateline, the day that goes into the vortex). Our guest will be Mark Bergen, author of the new book Like, Comment, Subscribe in which he reports on how YouTube ushered in a world of abundant content and creativity of influencers and online hustlers, of information overload and endless culture wars. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. So did you ever visit her at work? Thanks., RELATED: Jason Isbell slams Morgan Wallens appearance at Grand Ole Opry: Not surprised Just sad, Jason Isbell on the road, hummingbirds, fan requests and critical thinking in America, Jason Isbell on COVID vaccine mandates at concerts: No, were not taking away your freedom. The election is November 8. As they talked, Isbell was struck with a realization. Where are our Nashville folks? SHIRES: Thats well, see, Im accepting that it sounds like its supposed to now. You can keep the car and the house. And she came over and I showed her. For the latest news, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. As they talked, Im going to change the subject here. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. Theres a lot of things you do with your hands, but it struck me the most is matching the feeling of desperation or even begging. And I told my mom to come over because I had something to show her. My best hope is that people continue to get angrier and that the folks who have been fighting so hard for so long, and are already tired, find some strength to keep fighting and also to mobilize others, especially youth, along the way. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. The Idol: How HBOs Next Euphoria Became Twisted Torture Porn And we would be quiet so that she wouldnt get in trouble because it was a lot then to be a single mom and deal with the difference in pay for men versus women. I am your man. The song is named "Parking Lot Pirouette" for its protagonist's graceful forwardness, her decisive movement to prolong a pleasurable dalliance. GROSS: With the Texas Playboys when youre performing with them or something that you learned from one of your teachers but that really made you fall in love with the style and that epitomizes what that style is. "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. The tracks release Do you have you do a great version of Im Your Man, his song, Im Your Man, on YouTube. Yeah, I can do an excerpt. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. When we left off, we were talking about when Shires was 15 and started playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys, which used to be Bob Wills band. The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. I wouldnt go back and change it. So lets hear a song about when things werent so all right. Jason Isbell, Amanda Shires to Serve as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors. fiddle-playing damn Texan. So what didnt you like about your voice? But I think she probably knew. How Trump's Team Conned Susan Collins Into Dooming Roe v. Wade, Add Abortion to the List of Things Republicans Are Blaming for Uvalde, Want to Know What Politics Looks Like After Roe? When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. And in this certain period of time, there was a lot. To see more, visit. "Isn't it just like a daughter to make a fool of you? And I said, yes, Id love to. GROSS: Thats Empty Cups from Amanda Shires new album, Take It Like A Man. Thats such a great song, Amanda. SHIRES: Thats all you have to say? And it was much safer for us to sleep in the closet with the TV at the bail bonding place than to be left to her own devices at home. Well, why dont you sing some of it for us? In 2020, she penned an op-ed for Rolling Stone about why abortion rights matter. And I really liked it. Thats what I want. I think she probably knew 100%, but.. I had no problem taking direction, but and I had no problem helping when I needed to help, so. So when I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes, it was so I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song. Where the fuck are the rest of them? Shires wrote the song a few years ago and originally imagined it as a conversation between several women, but revamped it to feature her collaborator and husband. If you see my milk cow, please drive her on home cause I had no milk and butter no since my cows been gone. He could still leave it dish in the sink, you know? Essentially, shes just a good person. Isbells grandfather and uncle were both musicians, says Tompkins on the phone from Nashville. And there was a guy that also played the guitar, like a multi-instrumentalist side person. Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. 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Then I get to the end of the recording process and try to decide what makes the best collection of songs. I recorded my interview with her last week. SHIRES: (Singing) I was a healer. I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. Like, do you say, hey, honey, heres a song I wrote about how bad things are between us right now? Thats abundantly clear on his breakout new album, Southeastern, one of the years best in any genre. Lets get back to my interview with singer-songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. But a lot of times when youre growing up and taught what how to be successful and how to be to survive in the world as a woman with a career and all this stuff and probably young many young kids are taught this. Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. You know, like, how does that go? All Rights Reserved. It was keeping me up at night. All the time, the want, the overwhelming volume of breathing. Then her character takes control of the exchange in a teasing tone. But I thought, what am I going to do about that, in the event that she does go into country music? GROSS: So this track features you, Natalie Hemby and Yola as a guest artist on it. 2023 WNET. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. When I wrote my first piece for Rolling Stone, Id had an abortion before. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. The next year, she won a Grammy for best americana album as part of her husbands group, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. And I said, OK. And then I fell in love. I know they enjoy it. And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. Her new album is Take It Like a Man. But and after you did the main melody part, you get to improvise. The Mandalorian Season Three Gets Off to a Disappointing Start So I would be studying my pieces. SHIRES: We were writing that, and Brandi was like, Im going to take the first one. Or did you keep the songs, like, kind of secret for a while? Well be right back. Im on your side. Amanda Shires was named emerging artist of the year at the 2017 Americana Music and Honors Awards Ceremony. ", Shires and Isbell have a toddler daughter together, and thanks to gendered assumptions about the distribution of their parenting duties, Shires has fielded more than her share of questions about how she balances motherhood and music-making. That one speaks to me. And a lot of its multilayered, the meaning take it like a man. She performs in several settings and has received awards in each of them. GROSS: So that was the Highwomen, which is a song performed by the supergroup The Highwomen, which was co-founded by my guest, Amanda Shires, and Brandi Carlile. I know I can take it like Amanda. Thank you for performing for us. Fellow singer/songwriter Aimee Mann tweeted well wishes to Isbell: Im so sorry. Hearing these stories, I think that it makes your backbone stronger. With vacations lagging and the dangerous delta variant spreading, the United States is averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day for the first time since early February. She has a big conscience, a big heart. And your verse, you are somebody who thinks of herself as a healer but was hung in the gallows during the Salem witch trials. Well close with the opening track from Amanda Shires new album. How did you come up with the image of my hands are two empty cups? SHIRES: I began writing that song when I did the record My Piece Of Land a long while back. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. On your Twitter, you describe yourself as a disciple of Leonard Cohen. Recognition has been building steadily; he won Song of the Year at the 2012 Americana Honors and Awards at the Ryman Auditorium last September for Alabama Pines. He calls his superb backing band the 400 Unit, after the psychiatric ward of a hospital near Muscle Shoals, the part of the state where he grew up. GROSS: Oh, thats so funny. When youre trying to make a tough decision, you need a lot of support. We found music, and then being in the Shoals area just gave us an early look at all the places music can take you. / And the fear that I feel when I see my features reversed in my own daughter's face." SHIRES: I forced myself in that position. She gets pregnant and wants to have an abortion, although she doesnt feel great about it. But they took me seriously, but they also knew the seriousness and the impact of the help that they were giving me. And here it sits. It just seemed like the right thing to do because I dont want to spend my time on stage worried about if Im making people sick.. I was snared by your wrist. At age 34, hes got the baggy eyes of a man who has spent a lot of time thinking hard late at night. Are they just going to sit around and drink beer? We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. So thanks to them as well. The subject isnt talked about enough, Shires says. Shires would go on to make a name for herself, both as a solo artist and as the founder of the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. And Lanny Fiel, he would say, youre really, really great at the parts you love. SHIRES: My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen. And it just worked when we did it. SHIRES: Ive listened to all of his records. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid- feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows (Asheville, Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre, and Wilmington). McWhorter, who had played fiddle in Bob Wills band, became her teacher, and when Shires was just 15, he asked her to join The Texas Playboys. Where would that leave my own daughter? 99.99%. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. Were you just, like, the cute kid who could play but, you know that audiences would go wild over because you were a girl in the band and there wasnt much of that? Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. And her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back after a short break. But his voice is much stronger and clearer than it was in the Truckers. And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. I accept it now. Ninety-five percent of study participants who did have an abortion still stood by their decision. I had people threatening me. I hope youll join us. When Shires was in the hospital giving birth to their daughter, Mercy, in 2015, she had to disclose to her doctor, with her husband and mother in the room, that shed had an abortion. What does that phrase mean to you? She was in her home recording studio with her fiddle and with guitarist Zach Setchfield, and they played a few songs. And if anyone asks me, Ill say whats true I dont know. (Singing) Time was all Id want. GROSS: Amanda Shires, how did you decide you wanted to write a song about abortion? And I remember the first time I sang ever, Leon Rausch had to hold my hand. It seems like a simple thing to say, but its really true. Thank you for your songs. I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. This is FRESH AIR. SHIRES: I mean, I think theyre pretty good. Cancelling shows feels awful, I know. Do you think you would have been able to have the surgery if abortion had already been banned in Texas? I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. You can call me serious trouble. SHIRES: Oh, yes, Mercy is my daughter. credit: John Shearer. SHIRES: Oh, I would have had to find somebody to drive me to Mexico or somewhere else. A parking lot at night is a setting in which many women have learned to feel unsafe, to hurry about their business with heightened awareness that any strange figure approaching may have sinister intentions. 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Her new album of original songs is called Take It Like A Man. She also co-founded the country supergroup the Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. And it was a Carrie Underwood song from it was, like, six years before that or something. We have Olivia Rodrigo and Phoebe Bridgers speaking up, and Ariana Grande. If you want a boxer, Ill step in the ring for you. Probably nobody enjoys it as much as I do, but its not a necessity for survival. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. And I save them all and I return to them often I own one of his guitars My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen I really do feel like he did a lot of work for me that I dont have to do. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. You know, its Jimmy Webbs song originally, but. You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. SHIRES: Thank you so much. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. Is there a song that youd like to do? And Id sit on his porch. It makes it feel like youre tough enough for the fight, all the way down to your bones. When she paints a picture of motherhood in the subdued jangle-pop number "Charms," she doesn't dwell on its oft-idealized and sentimentalized facets. Theres nothing left to fix. Is that right? Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. Her new album is called Take It Like A Man.. SHIRES: Theres this song called Milk Cow Blues. Its blues, you know? I am Terry Gross. And after we recorded it, he said, Thats a really good song. And I said, Thats all you have to say. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda I could just trust based on how Leonard Cohen did all that work for us. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. They arent helping. Shires told her producer Dave Cobb, who also served as bassist in the album's indie rock-leaning band (with Isbell on lead guitar), "My violin needs to sound like it's in an aquarium, but more bright. We would sleep on the floor in the closet there because she would do the night shift, because she would was going to school in the daytime for being a nurse. He asserted that the band would cancel the concert if any venue refused to agree to their requirements. Ive found and scrounged and continued to for every interview that hes done in any form and any language. Amanda Rose Shires (born March 5, 1982) is an American singer-songwriter and fiddle player. Thats the song Faultlines, performed by Amanda Shires with Zach Setchfield on guitar in Amandas home studio outside of Nashville, Tenn. Thats one of the songs on her new album, Take It Like a Man. So lets talk about that song a little bit. Bergen is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. They all feel good, he says of making records, and they all feel really bad when youre working, simultaneously.. GROSS: Whoa. I was doing fine, and then, I was just like no sound would come out of my mouth. I dont have certain kinds of fatigue. In my case, I blame the education system, but I didnt even know what an ectopic pregnancy was. And I also want to thank Zack Sedgefield for playing guitar and also Diana Walsh, who engineered your end of the music and the conversation from your home studio in well, outside of Nashville. This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. It felt like maybe wed both leave at the same time. Likewise, the changes underway to the Supreme Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg could also mean that abortion rights will come under fire nationally. And I know that he feels the same way I do. Lets start with a track from the new album. And Zachs going to play guitar. They might not have had a voice before or might have been cast out into the streets without any place to sleep had they mentioned it earlier in their lives. For my children, I did what I had to do. When the band step back from their microphones to begin the extended breakdown, Isbell smiles like a boy on a great adventure. Home to the Grand Ole Opry from 1943-1974, the Ryman earned the moniker \"Mother Church of Country Music\" as the genres of country and bluegrass developed on its stage and found a national audience on radio and television. I laid hands upon the world. So its probably important to stay alive before you start questioning your liberty.. You can call it serious trouble cause thats what I want. Shires plays fiddle in her husband Jason Isbells band, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. The sound of silence rings in every room. But I am living still. Its an often-times divisive topic, and I dont want to bring any hurt to my family by doing something like putting out a song about this topic, but I lost all that fear when I got angry. SHIRES: (Singing) Im scared to even say the truth. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. The Problem wraps up by driving home the weight of the decision for her character. We both know that none of that was keeping, keeping me anyhow. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. GROSS: How did you find that out? This fight is about more than just abortion. How are we going to police that? Were you in Texas at the time? Snubbing the King: Why Don't Big Stars Want to Perform at Charles' Coronation? Boosted and very grateful for it., When a fan asked how his wife Amanda Shires and their daughter are feeling, Isbell answered, Mercy is negative with no symptoms and Amanda didnt come with me on this run, shes negative at home. He still cant seem to notice when the dishwashers unloaded and all the dishes are put away. Shires has an MFA in poetry, and she's exacting in her use of imagery to portray sensuality as a force both internal and physical. And because I was in the time of my life where I was having a disconnect in my marriage and not feeling great in with music but I discovered that it takes a lot to be vulnerable, and it takes a lot to talk to folks and to understand each other. And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. In the past, white men have said otherwise. Maintaining that vigilance and devoting necessary energy and attention to confronting and correcting not only sexual wrongdoing but warped thinking can be all-consuming. Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows, He then shared his symptoms and expressed his gratitude for getting vaccinated: Lotta sinus drainage type stuff, scratchy in my throat and some muscle aches but no cough or breathing issues fyi. Im your Amanda. Me and @JasonIsbell RCA studio B making a musical recording. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. And I kept imagining, like, how I had nothing left to give and nothing I could do or say to make anything feel right, like, within me somehow. SHIRES: (Singing) Trying not to think of names. "Through a sunset, shifting gears, to the something better shining diamond clear.". And any policing will disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks and other marginalized groups. I remember I used to think the force was strong with him, says Tompkins, who signed his first publishing deal when he moved to Nashville at 22. On Shires' latest record, her songwriting is more fearless and vulnerable than ever but as always, it's a reflection of an artist focused intently on community, equality In 2016 there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. On top of that, Shires notes, the pro-life stance doesnt typically extend past birth. I didnt believe it. Shires has released seven solo albums starting in 2005, her most recent being Take It Like a Man in 2022. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. A person having a miscarriage may have to fly to another state, just so they or their doctor doesnt get into legal trouble. Grammy Award-winning songwriter Amanda Shires and bestselling author George Saunders discuss inspiration, songwriting, and Amanda's new song, "You Don't Get to Go." And then you also youve got guys thatll back you up. After recording and touring for several years with the Drive-By Truckers, for whom he wrote standouts including Decoration Day, Outfit and Danko/Manuel, Isbell launched his solo career in 2007. Or is this through listening to his records that you feel like youre his disciple? Im so glad you wrote it. Also, during this time when I was leaving, I was thinking about how [my daughter] Mercy picked up a kazoo and she could play a kazoo. And then you also get to play you get to improvise, which is when you go off the page, as they say, or you just play what you feel within the chords. 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