But oddly enough, people like Olusoga havent given me the cash yet. Not sure how sick this makes me. This year, return to Neverland. Check out the trailer for Peter Pan & Wendy, an upcoming live-action movie directed by David Lowery. Maybe heard of Saint Balthild, seventh-century English lass sold into slavery, exported to the Continent, served in a palace and ended up marrying the Frankish King?). BZZZTT!! Away from the creative arts, the Equiano Project aims to promote race equality and he was mentioned in Parliament during a debate on Black History and Cultural Diversity in the Curriculum. And, of course, being half white, he is only entitled to half the reparation payment. December 2020. But slaves were more valuable, so the British fought the Spanish for a share in the trade and eventually came to dominate it. What would happen to that money, who knows, but as its (or was) your money, thats between you and your grifter of choice. Ill disparage them. Olusoga, who is half-Nigerian, traces this focus to his mother telling him when he was a child that Nigerian soldiers served in World War II. Joining them is Psychologist and Lecturer at Lancaster University, Dr David Tod, for a fascinating conversation about the psychology of acting. "The way history is viewed is changing. I do not see what is different between a plantation in Africa and a plantation in Virginia. The thing we British are ancestrally responsible for is beginning and continuing to pursue the extinction of the sordid business of slavery. People seem pretty much agreed on what is right and what is wrong. If you think 14 is the wrong decision for the boundary, a better argument is a rebuttal of the strongest case for 14 rather than a rebuttal of a straw-man version of it. Its a shame It seems absurd to me that anyone should be concerned about what happened 200 or 500 years ago. Olusoga poses as an objective historian and says he is not there to bring comfort to people. Black history: Should it be part of the wider curriculum? . At the moment it seems to regarded as a good thing. As Black British History Month draws to a close, TV historian Prof David Olusoga looks at the impact it's had - and how young people are taking it on. To be honest, I was a bit sceptical about the Olympics coming to London, but the atmosphere across the capital was genuinely wonderful . Like I said before, tolerance is in the gift of the powerful. More than a million copies were sold in Britain cheap pirated versions reached a mass readership. In the end, wholl be proven right about the matter practically, in terms of what the outcome is and what the first drafts of history say? Have you ever read the account by Ibn Fadlan of a Viking funeral in Russia? Prof Olusoga is not the only person who has been drawn to Equiano's story. Peter Olusoga. Olusoga is making an appeal to white guilt. (If the likes of SMFS believe Western society will fall apart without a return to traditional Christian-inspired values, I suggest they either don a pessimists crash-helmet or just cling on and enjoy the ride to Hell in their top-gear handcart. Their cities, as well as their comfort, will rapidly decay. Arguably wrong in a crimes against humanity way (similar language of natural justice and universal morality indeed being used by the abolitionists and the UK itself when it tried to enforce a ban on the trade) that made it inherently illegal even when governments tried to put it on a legal footing. Its a replay of the ecology nutters & the trannies. Olusogas ancestors will have participated in the capture of sale of slaves in Nigeria. 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In 1860, cotton goods accounted for 40 per cent of all British exports. Latin America for instance. They are stupid false for America. Flyover Americans arent going to take it. Ironically, one of the sources we can turn to in order to learn more is his own accounts of late 17th-century Jamaica. The Celtic version of slavery (which ran to quite a different model) was still going on in the places the Romans didnt reach. I know there are posters on here who see stepping into their opponents perspective as a dangerous and pointless endeavour that gives undue worth to a viewpoint they despise, but purely as a mental exercise theres usually something to be said for examining your opponents strongest argument instead of their weakest. It is a form of self-loathing. Later his parents separated from each other when he was just two years old. Pretty sure if you could, implausibly, trace my family tree through various not-very-literate eras youd pass through at least one Anglo-Saxon who owned a bunch of Britons. She had no interest in esoteric discussions of the war. Read about our approach to external linking. "So when black history was missing - the history of empire, the history of slavery - was missing from my history lessons, I didn't have a place to go to discover those missing chapters. When Olusoga recalled the experience before television cameras last year, he wept. Obama had none. I think it's an astonishing achievement.". He is a Cultural Marxist trying to destroy the West. But werent they lucky compared to the other Germans in Stalingrad? But that ignores how the demand of outsiders led inevitably to far more supply being provided, so I dont think the traders can be given a pass on this front either. It may have made sense for the SS to starve labourers to death. The UK, Norway, Benelux, Spain, Malta and Switzerland are, I believe, the only western European countries to set it at 16. What is their strongest argument? Just means they werent alone in being in the wrong. If the alternative was that they were killed? Not sure theyd do that with modern sensibilities mind you. So wherever the wealth came from, it wasnt just slavery (or even mainly), Olusogas an alright presenter but a class A race hustler, Edward Lud August 30, 2020 at 9:12 am We could just cut to the chase, and impose a reparations tax on anyone who is descended from from anyone who did something, er, wrong.. Reasonable estimates have some 50% of the inhabitants of the Sokoto Caliphate as late as the late 19th cent being slaves. Well one economist has worked out the amount to be paid (although not on a damages basis, when one imagines blacks might end up paying whites, but on a close the wealth gap basis): A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap. Thats why when the question is raised, I always point out that they owe me lots and lots of money. Whoever has the upper-hand in power political, cultural, economic, military or whatever other form is decisive at that moment. Nevertheless, we live in a society that generally regards slavery as an absolute and eternal wrong, and a grave one at that, yet which has historically (at least certain people and places, and including the state itself) benefited from imposing slavery on others.. Writing in english is cultural appropriation so STFU. In America few were castrated, which is why there are now >40 million descendants there. Was never entirely sure which bits were believed and which bits were just a fun bit of intellectual muscle-flexing couldnt all have been intended seriously since so many posts contradicted each other. Not good. Nevertheless, we live in a society that generally regards slavery as an absolute and eternal wrong, and a grave one at that, yet which has historically (at least certain people and places, and including the state itself) benefited from imposing slavery on others. As would Beyonce. (Im just presenting the case here in reality there are obviously some big questions about the logic of Nuremberg etc, just as there are questions about how judges in Common Law occasionally summon up things as if they had always and forever been a part of the Law, albeit previously unrecorded, rather than something the judge just made up.). Then dont discuss it. Hes insisting that a household headed by a 21 year old black should have the average wealth of all white households. Sooner or later, we whites are going to have to take a stand, and say we aint taking this any more. He was born in Nigeria but arrived in the . The best and brightest minds in the UK defended Stalins slavery. Once insignificant villages, great cities such as Liverpool, Bristol and Glasgow sprang up on the profits of slavery. The world has seen more slavery since its abolition than before. I am of Ulster Scot heritage, who were originally John Knoxs Cumberland Presbyterians, VERY MUCH against slavery. Would the good professor really be so different if genealogical records could prove he had African ancestors who owned African slaves? Whitey bad, give me cash? Id say the same to the Black Lives Matter people. Olusoga has benefited from and added significantly to the work of Fryer and other historians such as James Walvin. Exactly, bis. How would Nigeria treat a foreigner like him? Should almost go without saying except of course that it doesnt, since clearly not every culture has the same moral gut reaction to it that I do. Full text must be online somewhere but theres an extract at https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings. Britain's role in the transatlantic slave trade is part of the national curriculum, although it is not statutory. I personally dont find that as convincing as the case that slaves themselves deserved compensation, and while there were strong political and practical reasons owners were compensated upon abolition but not their former slaves, it doesnt leave a great moral taste in the mouth that twas so. Not to say it was nice. Its been banned for two centuries in Britain. And yes, grand scheme of things, forced choice between living in a central Asian city about to be captured by ticked-off Mongols and an African tribal group about to be captured by profit-hungry slavers then fine, I take the latter hands down. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . How does it benefit anyone to make an issue about particular events? What do you think their stongest argument is? Hundreds of White women raped every day. Moreover its arguably unjust that only victims of still-extant states have a route to compensation whereas people from ethnic groups roughly contemporaneously massacred, enslaved and sacrificed by the Aztec Empire have nobody to sue. The rest apart from Ireland (17, partly due to influence of aforementioned Patrick) set it younger. Pretty much everybody in the West is against slavery. Slavery is bad or it isnt. A weekly round-up of some of the best articles featured in the most recent issue of the New Statesman, sent each Saturday. A newsletter showcasing the finest writing from the ideas section, covering political ideas, philosophy, criticism and intellectual history - sent every Wednesday. Its an interesting exercise to consider, given we live within such a system, how or whether that contradiction can be settled. Thankfully the Woke have gifted us an all purpos3e response to this sort of crap. That star stuff wont last. As it happens, I dont believe in sins of the fathers passing down the generations. The Russians do not have these problems because they are not ashamed. But Muslims were enslaving white Europeans into Africa long before the Atlantic route, usually castrating the males. Shouldnt Olusoga be writing in Ubangi bantu-language? The problem with slavery is that it left us with their descendents and weak minded White populations. No doubt life expectancy of a slave was shorter than that for a free man. No other race / culture was willing and able to do that. Oh man. First launched in London in 1987, it aims to highlight and celebrate what black people have achieved in Britain throughout history. The Westman Islands of Iceland have an interesting history in terms of European slavery a major rebellion of presumably mostly Irish (Westmen) slaves was put down there in the typically brutal Scandinavian manner, hence the name, but in the 1600s the local inhabitants were themselves enslaved by Barbary pirates and taken to Algiers, from where a few were ransomed back and one wrote about the experience. My first reaction, years and years ago, was thats awful. It was, I believe, the first book I ever bought for myself with my own money. Get back to us when youve developed your historicalguiltometer. There is no reason to single White people out for unique levels of criticism. As a nation, we still have only a dim understanding of the slave system that funded Sloanes collecting. Note, hes a renowned economist. Though I dont know where wed get $12 trillion in Confederate currency. I just dont really get what Olusoga is saying. And the transatlantic slave trade? His black half can get the half-payment direct from his white half. A weekly newsletter helping you fit together the pieces of the global economic slowdown. This history of the black presence in . Both of these need proof. I am happy with Olusogo paying reparations to himself. When I met her, ~1995, I started asking her questions about the war, as I thought she was a fabulous resource of information. Indeed, third-century York may have been more ethnically and racially diverse than present-day York. It is a political campaign, not a contribution to academic history. "They're not looking to history only to make them feel good and give them comfort, but they're looking to history to tell them things about truths about their society that we have traditionally edited out of British history.". Between that night at the opera and 1807, nearly 800,000 Africans were enslaved. It wasnt always so & it may not be in the future. It's possibly a deeper change than some people realise because I don't think what we're living through is a series of political events; I think we're living through a generational shift," he says. Purely speculatively, and as a matter of prediction rather than judging whats best, its hard to imagine large-scale reparations ever being adopted in Blighty because the ratio of losers to winners with the vote (presuming eg British Asians would be ineligible for compensation) is going to remain unfavourable and the cost of reparations across the relevant parts of the old Empire (if youre compensating British Jamaicans, presumably youre going to compensate all the Jamaicans in Jamaica once youve accepted the principle) would be considerable. If more African-Americans started to vote Republican and the Democrats felt they needed something radical to boost their offer, and had enough support from liberal whites and other groups to risk further losses among blue-collar whites, for example. That is a strawman argument at its best. I brought up paedophilia to demonstrate that there are things not worth my time. What difference has it made? Like Fryers book, Olusogas will inspire and will come to be seen as a major effort to address one of the greatest silences in British historiography. That hes able to write this article is because hes living in what is, by historical standards, a remarkably tolerant society. The Coldest Case in Laramie: yet another bleak true crime podcast, From Sophie Mackintosh to Stephen Moss: new books reviewed in short, Universal Credit falls short of covering the bare essentials. So this race baiter can try his guilt trip on someone else. One in which enslaved people suffered and even died from malnutrition, as the economics of the slave trade meant that it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them than it was to provide them with food. Whether they are too stupid to think of that remains to be seen. Definitely didnt die out with the Romans. But its still awful, even on a historical scale.. So 10.416 were sold by the Africans every month for one hundred years, There will be no peace on this issue until black people acknowledge their own responsibility for the trade. Nineteen eighty-four affected him in another way: the publication of Peter Fryers groundbreaking Staying Power: The History of Black People in Britain introduced him to the scholarship needed to understand his position in Britain. Long after slavery ended in the British colonies, British people continued to lobby the American government to free their slaves. "I don't know why this generation has a different relationship with the past, goes to the past, expecting and looking for different things to earlier generations, but that's really is my observation about them," he says adding the internet has played a huge part. at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. Various among the societies that were agglomerated into Nigeria were more or less involved in that slave trade from the supply end. Such sources give his writing freshness, originality and compassion. Maybe someone should advise him to button his lip before he stirs up something he may not like. Anybody can do this. Fired by religious feeling, they embarked on a campaign of public education and political lobbying unprecedented in scale and revolutionary in nature. I cant see this one surviving people being expected to dig into their pockets for a few trillion. Country Star Kacey Musgraves: Voting for Trump Is an Act of Violence. But those were in those long-lost days when democrats and republicans could talk to each other and agree to disagree while both leaving the conversation a little the wiser.. Its very noticable how nobodys mentioning that the Spanish Empire were doing this for several centuries before the British got involved. "The small minority whose history had been airbrushed out of the national story recovered that history with the help of their allies and then broadcast it, spread it into our national conversation and they did that within the space of half a century. Just as how in the 16th century the anti-slavery voices in Europe were overwhelmed, and in the 19th century the abolitionists won out. But morals are very transient things. Fuck right off As a winning debating strategy. Thats why we get it. So my advice would be, for his own health, STFU. If black lives really mattered these people would be protesting the 500 shot dead so far by predominantly black men in Chicago this year. He is the author of the 2016 book Black and British: A Forgotten History, which was awarded both the Longman-History Today Trustees Award 2017 and the PEN Hessell-Tiltman Prize 2017. One of his teachers had a coffee mug bearing a National Front slogan and another attacked him during a school trip, he said. No? Davids all done. Heroes of 2020 What Marcus Rashford's campaign for hungry children tells us about . it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them But Ill tell you what, slavery and human sacrifice, still awful. The many African-American abolitionists, such as Frederick Douglass, who visited Britain from the 1840s onwards, were well received and, again, thousands of people greeted them and raised money to support their cause. In the late 1800's and early 1900's, 30,000 Jewish migrants from Russia and Eastern Europe settled in Manchester. It was such a brilliantly organised programme of mass protest that slavery was declared abolished in 1833: 46,000 slave owners were given 20m in compensation (17bn in todays money), the largest payout in British history and 40 per cent of all government spending that year. They also ran a slave trade to the Ottoman empire and white slavery in the north without any help from Europeans. I agree BIS. Would, say, Huguenot-descended South Africans suing France over the 1572 St. Bartholomews Day massacre, or Cornish people suing HMG for the suppression of the 1497 Rebellion, deserve compensation?. In the case of slavery the answer is clear. His exposure to Nigerian culture seems quite limited. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . We pretend we do not like slavery but actually we do not like slave traders. I learned the hard way. Used to be on a long-dead and much missed forum where the topics of debate ranged far wider than they do here (as did the viewpoints I think it would be useful if us right-wing brexity mob didnt chase off the sensible non-right-wing non-brexity types so much). Back in the heyday of blogging, perhaps ten years ago or so, there was a blogger calling him/herself The Heresiarch who enjoyed running against received opinions. My family did nothing. It is about the centuries-long engagement with Africa, a consequence of which is the black presence in Britain. Dont even get me started on the Moors, Arabs and Ottomans, As for getting rich many African tribes kept slaves and their societies did not get rich. There is plenty of slavery about we just do not call it that. The rest of this looks like the usual white washing (so to speak) of African slavery. 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