The National Weather Service recorded an 89 mph gust in Louisville. The police came in with her neighbor, Lucinda said, and took her by the arm out to the patrol car. Police officers George Kleinmeir, Jeff Hinkle, and David Kunkle recreated the circumstances surrounding Lucindas confession. This movie is a slow burner and, doesn't get straight into the action/drama until way later on in the movie unlike, most films in the drama/thriller genre which, usually send the viewer straight into it. Midnight. The motion for removal wasnt granted, and Penfold gaveled the hearing to order on August 22, 1977. Thinking the stepsisters had murdered the stepmother, Arthur insisted she stay home, pointing out the perceived danger of visiting them. She said that she had to kill her mother because she was going to kill her father, and her mother couldnt live without her father because her mother loved her father and her father loved her mother. How could you tell she wasnt breathing? I was afraid for my life in my car., Wind gusts have reached up to 89mph in today's wind event. And she was still going at approximately 12 that night, is that correct? It was about three days after they had moved him out of intensive care when they moved him into a private room. No incriminating prints had been lifted. Did she tell you the purpose of putting the turpentine in her mothers punch? Gaither asked. There were so many people that day, I probably gave them a hug, but they didnt say anything, she said. Lile hadnt come back from a job up the trail. Mary wrote: "Diana had a happy secure childhood. Rudee had actually been trying to get a hold of Lile for three days before one of his cousins called her back and broke the news. He had never before certified a juvenile. Lancaster hoped hed been able to raise doubts about Annas story. I was very grateful to be with her, Rudee said. He said he had talked to Bobby in the hospital and that all Bobby had said was What did Lucinda say? Sharon was dead, stabbed with a butcher knife. He was quiet, he didnt go anywhere, that wasnt like him. "Everybody is just stunned. His impression was that they were dating. The National Weather Service recorded an 89 mph gust in Louisville. In late January 1979, Brenda Spencer killed two adults and injured eight children and one adult because of her hate for Mondays. The next day, Anna said, Lucinda said she would get off for the murders because she was so young. But the young man visits his sister as often as he can, and he is glad to see she is holding up so well. He then drives her to her sister's house nearby and then heads to a nearby nightclub where some friends are waiting for him. and he had the knife and I had the gun and we just kind of stood there for a minute and then my mom came in the back door and he turned around and 1 saw her and she was real panic-stricken and everything and so I shot him twice. Lucinda Spencer, 62, and Lucas Lile, 29, each died last spring in incidents that appeared to have no link Matthew Jonas, Daily Camera From left: Simon Lile, Gail Lile and Larry Lile stand next. By the middle, Lucinda has turned into a gold digger. He knew that wouldnt be easy because his defense had been unmitigated. Brought up by over protective parents, Claire first caused a stir by fantasising about teacher Mr Hopwood in her diary, leading to her father attacking the object of her affection! Yes, sir, I certainly would. He talked about how he kept stroking her cheek telling her Youll be fine. They were facing each other, and he kept saying, If it had hit me, I could have deflected it somehow. Hed like to give it a whirl, he says. Michael Woolson as the son tries to stay far away from the whore wife. I dont know. Stout admitted to at least two affairs but maintained they had been six years ago. Not long afterward, to Matt's horror, his best friend and Lucinda are subsequently married. I did it. Lucindas probation officer testified that Lucinda had been cheerful, helpful, and hard-working during her stay at the juvenile detention center. It was a small victory, but David Lancaster needed all the encouragement he could get. How many times did she say it? Gaither continued. A wife is on trial for the murder of her husband. Lucinda arrived a few minutes later, bent over him and said, Daddy, I love you. Friends of Spencers just so happened to live near the Lile family, and when they heard Lucas Lile was in between jobs, they told him Spencer was looking for help with her move. A torn plantar plate and ligament in my foot that's been slowly getting worse and worse FINALLY fixed by the magnificent Dr. O'Malley at HSS today, she revealed. Are you upset with your dad because he wants your sister prosecuted for this offense, wants her punished for what shes done? He and I helped clean up the house together, Rudee said. The only reason to do so would be a conflict of interest, and since that didnt exist, Penfold could only assume the DAs office was sending him a message. Did Stout tell you he was in danger of being indicted for this murder? Thats why I really needed to meet Lucas.. He said his mother had arrived to do the books about half an hour earlier. The husband is found shot with a bullet in his head, but since there is no murder weapon to be found, there is no case. For her it is an example of how not everyone knows the impact they can make on others lives, or how people can become joined by fate. She went on to w. A bit later he heard a banging at the back door. Her brother Robert came home about 6, then left with some relatives. It had been taken in the presence of more than one officer and after the usual warnings that statements made under the circumstances could be used against Lucinda Stout in court. I found that I was watching it for a little bit then turning the channels back and forth during commercials. Director Bill Norton Writer Frank Abatemarco Stars Cheryl Ladd Nick Mancuso Michael Woolson See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video included with Prime More watch options Add to Watchlist 8 User reviews 1 Critic review Photos 29 Top cast Edit Cheryl Ladd Lucinda Nick Mancuso Would that be in conflict in any way with what you believe to be the truth today? Robert testified that his father had told him in the hospital that if Lucinda was found innocent, he would be the one found guilty. No. A paint salesman. The courtroom buzzed like a lynch mob. Jim Burnham smiled. And what was she doing? It all came down to whether she would be believable when she said it. On January 3, Lara stunned her followers when she shared a series of pictures with her walking boot and knee scooter on Instagram. "Lucinda" is a reference to Cinderella and possibly Lucifer. Did you ever try to get her an attorney? Burnham cross-examined aggressively. He was just so sad about what happened, Rudee said. No, sir, I didnt. No, sir. broadcasts. We feel like he was a hero even though (Spencer) died. Alexander was tall and imposing, one of the best cross-examiners in the city. Never even said it in jest or jokingly. My husband and I were pacing the floor, saying, It cant be Lucas, it cant be Lucas. Because we had gotten word someone had died. He died of a broken heart.. I ran home and the police, they were going to be coming over. Spencer can frustrate with its idiosyncratic depiction of its subject's life, but Kristen Stewart's finely modulated performance anchors the film's flights of fancy. . He died of a broken heart.. This theory is based on the idea (for which I have no evidence) that Lucinda was secretly an unstable psychopath. Here is a summary of the highest gusts. The next day, the state called their two best witnesses, Anna Villasana and Bobby Stout. When he was telling me about what happened, he looked up after he heard the crack of the tree and shes bleeding, Gail Lile said. Yes, sir. The last person that was truly with her was Lucas, telling her she was going to be OK, and she probably really needed that at that moment. Bobby never expressed any sorrow over Sharons death to her, and never talked about Lucinda. My wife discussed quite a few problems with Lucinda. She still insists she is Innocent of the charges . Burnham: Doctor, would you tell us what your diagnosis of the defendant is? A couple of days later, she continued, Lucinda told her over the phone that she had to kill them, that she couldnt run away. She said she would get six months and then she would be a free girl, and she could do and say as she wished. Facebook gives people the power. "It's so they can't do it to any other family. Lancaster asked how Lucindas clothes had been transferred from police headquarters to the forensic lab. Well, after I decided to tell the truth, we went over there because I wanted to tell Mr. Stout. The only point of dispute was where the blood was found and how it got there. Was it within two weeks, three weeks? Although he succeeded in bursting Lucinda's vital organs, she bit into his neck and fatally wounded him before dying. But Gaither couldnt resist pounding home a few more points. One of his hands remains in a curled position due to his mental retardation and after-effects of his medication to curb is seizures. Theyre both hard to understand for me. After he saw me he kind of stopped for a minute and he saw the gun in my hand so he stopped and he kept telling me to put it down and I wouldnt . We feel like he was a hero even though (Spencer) died. Who is Angela, Mr. Stout? Her job in the prison store pays her a little money, and she just bought a new watch. Were they preparing for a party the next day? Obviously, father and son had had a heart-to-heart talk about his upcoming testimony. He loved Lucinda, but supposed anything was possible, and if an apparently normal 16-year-old girl did all that, she obviously needed help. She was very emotional and upset. Needless to say, it was the worst day of my life, Gail Lile said. Are your dad and Harry Stout good friends? She said that the law wouldnt do anything to her. No, sir. Hed put up the best defense he could think of for Lucinda Stout. Is it possible for a psychiatrist to diagnose incurable sociopathological behavior in a youngster? "Right now, there is no one to vent that anger towards," JeromeStrange said. A few weeks after the move, Spencer rehired Lile to help her sort through some things because she had more than she could fit in the new place. Annas testimony provided the one thing the prosecution hadnt had in its arsenal: evidence of premeditation. No, not recently. And she told me she took them out for their last supper and that she should be nice to the old folks for the last time. Rehabilitation was favored over punishment; counseling over incarceration. While investigators initially thought it might have been a fall, the coroners office ultimately ruled the cause of death heart disease. Lancaster checked off point two: The officers had just admitted to a direct violation of the Texas Family Code governing juvenile custody and confession. The deck had been stacked against her from the beginning. He didnt tell me anything. Rudee said Lile kept talking about how he wished the tree had fallen on him instead, or that he could have done more to try and save Spencer. In two weeks, Liles family and friends will hold a picnic at Heil Valley Ranch on the anniversary of his death. Sir, my mother, I assumed, was dead because she wasnt breathing. Assuming that August 24 was the day you testified, did you tell anybody prior to August the 24th the truth about these incidents? And so Lile helped Spencer move her things, and the two quickly bonded. Her parents came home about 8. David described how Bobby had told him about Angela Creed. He was newly married, and expecting his first child. No moments but puckering and prancing about in revealing costumes too tight and too small for her. The girl writes letters to her friends, to her aunt and uncle, and, of course, to her brother. Bobby Stout took the stand and repeated his story of the night of June 10. You put two bullets in his back. The broadcaster has been giving fans updates on her recovery on social media and what it's been like getting. Now, in the sentencing process, Lancaster knew that he had to appeal to the jurys best instincts to evoke sympathy for his client. I felt like I had to be strong and tell him you have to move on.. LOUISVILLE, Colo. The Boulder County Coroners Office on Thursday identified the woman killed by a falling tree limb during Tuesdays wind storm. I feel like we need to honor him always, and we will continue to do so, she said. Because she wouldnt let you go out with the people late at night? . After hammering away at Stouts credibility, Lancaster moved to the witness extra-marital relationships. And you just kept telling them? David Lancaster knew the trial would be a personal ordeal. BARDSTOWN, Ky. (WDRB) Thirty years after a mother was murdered, her husband is speaking out about her violent death. Please enter valid email address to continue. Had Lucinda come to you with any problems recently prior to June 10? Youre not sure what to think. Then Thursday was the day it happened.. Shed . Yes. It was like it helped to release something.. . Mount said his opinion was that Lucinda suffered from marked anxiety, depression, and a poor self-concept. See Emma Corrin as Princess Diana 16 Shows to Watch After "The Crown" How The Crown's Actors Compare to the Royals The latter part of her name refers to the fairy tale, while the name. Lancaster questioned the officers, zeroing in on the question of whether Lucinda actually understood what her rights were. Actor Matthew Gray Gubler, who played Dr. Spencer Reid on Criminal Minds, hasn't commented on being missing from the reboot, but Paget Brewster has confirmed the reason why. The next day we heard she had died, and that set him back again, and he felt so bad. Once again, Anna said, Lucinda mentioned killing her parents. The broadcaster has been giving fans updates on her recovery on social media and what it's. On my return back from Mat leave I was lucky to find a new employer who. It disputes Grigsons methodology on just about every count. Thats true. View Lucinda Spencer's profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. Should we assume that there are mitigating circumstances when a girl is moved to murder her own mother? After she was struck by the tree, you called 911, held her and comforted her while waiting for the paramedics to come and then cared for her dogs. Gail Lile said one weekend, her son broke. I told him I didnt think it was a mistake. He wanted to help his sister, but he didnt want to turn on his father. Like all of Henry Wades men, Hal Gaither disliked missing links, because missing links could turn into surprises. I think he was home all of the time. Anna dated Lucindas premeditation to the Tuesday before the crime. What else did she have to do? He had collapsed about a mile up the trail. It was hard to tell; it was always hard to tell. Lucinda Spencer is a Nurse Practitioner in Vandalia, IL. And Gaither had two psychiatrists who would take care of the rest: They would both testify that she was an intelligent, sophisticated girl who probably knew right from wrong when she killed her mother. But you werent worried about calling the police and getting them over there and getting your dad arrested so they could take him to jail for killing your mother? Susan Grund is the only one who knows exactly what happened that night in August. The daughters of former Virginia Gov. Objection sustained. I hope the info I have provided you helps. They decided to wait a few hours before doing another test. There were so many people that day, I probably gave them a hug, but they didnt say anything, she said. It was a big move after she had a beautiful property she lived on for 16 years. She started her killing spree to 'liven up the day.' Spencer's murderous rampage might have claimed more victims had the police not obstructed her line of fire using a garbage truck. He held it together until he came home, she said. Miss America, a Strip Club, International Travel, a Gangster Ex-Cop, Possible Lost Bodies, a Shoddy Medical Examiners office, the Japanese Mob, and an FBI . David Stout still didnt know what had gone on out there that night. Late the night before, Mrs. Villasana had called Alexander as a courtesy: Only three weeks before, her daughter had assured Alexander face-to-face that she knew nothing about the crime. Lancaster asked Stout if hed ever had any extramarital affairs. Lancaster recalled Mary Bolch. Spencers battle was over. No arrests have been made inher murder, which is now a cold case. Its in the old part of Louisville, Louisville police Sgt. The only reason she confessed was that her father told her to take the rap: They wont do anything to you because youre a kid, she said Bobby Stout told her. They hadnt pled temporary insanity, justifiable manslaughter or self-defense in the stabbing of Sharon Stout; theyd simply asked the jury to believe the daughter instead of the father. She then called her friend Anna and said something she couldnt remember. ***SPOILERS*** Somewhat confusing crime drama that's based on a true story, maybe that's why it's so confusing, about this parolee Lucinda Michaels, Cheryl Ladd, who gets involved with this very very very successful lawyer the sweet and very likable Clay Spencer, Mike Farrell, and takes him for the ride of his life; straight into the city morgue. Nellie Sanders (mother of Susan) remains convinced that others were involved in the murder of Jimmy besides her daughter. Alexander and Lancaster slumped in dismay. Those two headlines appeared in the Daily Camera in spring 2018. First published on April 20, 2018 / 10:01 PM. Robert Stout came to the stand with the confidence of a man who had something to say. You killed one and now you want to put it on your dad . Anna recounted several conversations she had had with Lucinda the week before the murder. Lancaster shifted gears. Robert, Gaither asked, did you ever know of any infidelity that your father committed? and has continued to work surveillance operations for the FBI and statewide drug organizations mainly on drug related cases. After she was struck by the tree, you called 911, held her and comforted her while waiting for the paramedics to come and then cared for her dogs. Lancaster asked Stout if he had talked about Lucinda with his brother David a few days after the crime. Whether movers in Fort Collins are helping you Mitchell Byars has been reporting for the Daily Camera since 2011, covering breaking news and courts. The final witness in the certification hearing was Lucindas friend, Anna Villasana. Yes, sir. He could point out that Lucinda was a smart, well-liked little girl. I do not. I had to use the gun. Slightly above average. Possibly. I was very grateful to be with her, Rudee said. She called out to her husband, Tom Overby, who happened to be on the phone with their primary care physician. He was convicted in the 1987 deadly robbery of Jeffrey Young . Juvenile justice once rested on the premise that the law should treat children as children. She had about $31,000. No. Grigson said it depended, but in some cases it would. She recorded her first two albums: Ramblin' on My Mind (1979) and Happy Woman Blues (1980), in a traditional country and blues style that received critical praise but little public or radio attention. Puzo has since moved to trail design, so she isnt out in the field as much and wasnt going to be working directly with Lile. Lile hadnt come back from a job up the trail. Select this result to view Lucinda Jean Spencer's phone number, address, and more. Yes, sir. I told him I didnt think it was a mistake. No one knew where she was. 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