I would try an oil treatment. THANKS AGAIN GREAT JOB, Thanks for the feedback and additional info. Still misfiring but the ticking noise stopped after about 10 seconds. Thanks Ed, I would need the p-codes to help. nockenwellengeber einlass bank 1 vanos maximal-anschlag einlass bank 1 The yellow light also goes away itself sometimes then comes back a few days later. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. - Nick at Pelican Parts, No air leak any where any other suggestions, thank you, I have a 08 328xi coupe automatic, when stoped at a light i get a jumping idle, it never dips below normal just jumps up, and when it does jump it makes the car jerk, when i have the ac on its a little better, im also not getting a engine light, any thoughts, Check for an air leak at an intake air duct. I took it to a shop and getting the fault code p0012 referencing the "camshaft timing over-retarded bank 1". A jamming code could be the actuator. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I did replace the vanos units sprockets about 10000 km ago. - also I have checked the charging voltage at battery 14.2v which is ok and have disconnected each sensor relating to engine control to eliminate those too. If the system is not working properly, a fault code will be set. Changed all spark plugs and coils no change. wozzza said: Hoping that someone can help, I recently bought a 2007 Mini Cooper with a 1598cc engine, The engine light came on and checked the fault codes on a delphi system. Three days later the car has not thrown any codes but surge has come back and idle is very rough and you can even hear the engine "looping" sound in the engine and through the exhaust. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Could be an issue with the eccentric shaft sensor, very common. If anyone has thoughts on this please share. ?/ What else could I check for? - Nick at Pelican Parts, I have a 2008 BMW 320i German origin. Thinking vanes solenoids might be bad because this wasn't present before I changed them but the eco throws no codes? The condition I am having is a crank with no start. Is the check engine light on or flashing when the problem is present? The timing kit was changed 15k miles ago. Your code reader may be displaying the wrong bank. its currently stalling, jerking at red lights, especially at cold starts in the morning. https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/ATSDSI1040.htm?pn=ATS-DSI1040&SVSVSI=MF57&DID=172948 what do you suggest i do? Cold mornings have had an idling start problem and near stalling. starts up fine now engine light still on, still stalls out. - Nick at Pelican Parts, I have scanned the car and a fault code 2A67 is present, problem could be in the circuit or the valvetronic motor. - Nick at Pelican Parts. could a sticky solenoid be the cause of a P0012 intake camshaft position timing order retarded? Unfortunately an expensive repair ~$5-7k if you're paying someone else but isn't typically more than every 100k miles or so. The engine light goes out by itself when I restart the car. They are responsible for direct oil flow to the VANOS actuator and can become restricted over time on high mileage engines. The idle issue can be cause by many things. - Nick at Pelican Parts, hie I have a bmw 318i 2001 model when starting it during the morning it starts fine but will hesitate idling at times cutting off completely but if I start it whilst depressing the accelerator slightly it doesn't cut out and if I rev it and let it idle it then begin to idle just fine what could be the problem please help thanks, Could be a vacuum leak or broken intake air duct. Have a good one too! Any thoughts? If you would like your login information reset, click on the button below to request your login information to be reset. Will try cleaning the solenoid sensor as you recommend but wondering if there is any way it could be related to an ignition coil that is going bad. Can a vacuum leak through a p0015 code? For the love of God I cannot get the new solenoid to seat properly it goes in very difficult. Thanks, Vacuum for the brake booster comes from the vacuum pump. He now tells me that the motor is more that likely a throw away WTF or top of the block needs to be pulled down to inspect. I put them back the way they were initially and the violent shaking goes away and comes back to the initial slight shake at cold start and random idle thump/skip. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Hello, My 2006 e90 325i with 109,000 miles has an inconsistent idle in the mornings, after sitting overnight. Hard to say with little info. The bolts on the Vanos were both tight and the fact that both were out an equal amount in relation to the crank makes me think it was the crank that slipped? Have the valves been damaged? Any thoughts or ideas, including whether it's safe to drive the car or it should be towed? Does anyone know if it's resonable for the camshaft bearning ledges & vanos solenoid valves to fail on a 2008 335xi that has 86k miles? i'm thinking it may be the starter, but are there any other things that i should check before it? - Nick at Pelican Parts. Im also getting the low oil pressure warning at the initial start up several times. Scratching my head. usually a fault code would be set. Engine vibrates at every start. I would start by checking the DME for fault codes. I did clear the SES light on my dash, but can a shop still pull stored codes - how long are they stored for? Also I had it at a shop and before towing it home they guessed there was an issue w/ computer citing injectors dumping too much fuel. Oil I was using before was 5w30 and now I bought Motul 5w40. You may have a faulty oil level sensor. Is this something that could be related to the VANOS or more of a vacuum leak or leak issue or something else I haven't considered? Hi Nick, I have a BMW 318i E90 a recently noticed a vanos intake error not too sure of the error code but if I can remember, it's 2A8A vanos intake but the check engine lights aren't on. I believe those are misfire fault codes. What do you recommend? With reference to your reply on 20th April 2016. Symptoms are as follows : Sluggish CEL always on Slightly rough idle After around 3rpm car feels like its surging with more power There is no misfire though What are the symptoms of a faulty vanos gear also Thanks for you time In replying, I don't see why you wouldn't trust a shop you took your vehicle to. codes P0016 P006, MULTIPLE. The engine is misfiring check engine light flashing on startup and low RPM pull away then remains solid, so I decided to change plugs and coils. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Codes showing this time 29d1 combustion misfire cylinder 5, 29d2 combustion misfire cylinder 6, 29d0 combustion misfire cylinder 4. BMW 320 cabriolet 07. You'll want to keep the water away from the electrical connector side YES. Then your issue is likely a mechanical timing issue. i restarted it fine and then after a couple miles of driving i was at a stop light and while in gear the engine had a slight shake to it, it didnt sound super rough but was abnormal. When your engine doesnt start youll want to check the basics. Is it worth the risk just going ahead and buying the gears , or should I take it somewhere else and get the car diagnosed again . I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. Posted to Technical Discussion Forum on 6/12/2013. Hi Nick, I have a E93 2008 which has error code 2A99 Crankshaft Position Sensor; Outlet Camshaft; Correlation - Intermittent. I checkd DME fault code and comes the code 2a82 Inlet-Vanos variable cam control test! Is the check engine light on or flashing when the problem is present? - Nick at Pelican Parts. Problem is intermittent. Start by checking the oil level, then oil pressure. Any info appreciated. E92 325i with the following codes: 29d0 2aab 2a82 Idle very rough, dips in RPM low enough to occasionally cut out. The error codes stored are P0340 & P0303. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Does the bolt do the rest? When I have to take of engine does to respond to accelerator unless I take off very gently. With your vehicle info handy, give The Pelican Parts parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. I would try swapping the solenoid from one bank to the other. Your model should be the same. I had the No. If the system is not working properly, a fault code will be set. The VANOS actuators mount to the front of the camshafts. Coils/spark plugs have been replaced and no codes or lights are on. No, they are not. Safety guidelines are provided by Rev Cycle and were last updated on, 2309 Huntington Dr, San Marino, CA, 91108. Need help not sure what to check next. Think the code is FGSTNR 01 although I could have gotten that wrongNew buyer. throwing 2a9a and 2a9b. Thanks a lot again! Greetings, Can you tell me the exact size/thread type of the 10 mm bolt holding the VANOS units in place? Test drove and everything is fine. Please select one of the links below to schedule an Inspection or Request a Permit Extension. service light came on and off a couple times. However, I would suggest getting to the problem of the issue. Thanks a again! You probably have a plugged crankcase breather, causing oil to be pushed out. If the solenoids did cause the fault, I prefer to replace them over cleaning them. - Nick at Pelican Parts. What is compression on all cylinders? It is common. Besides testing the sensor is so easy following your instructions and you troubleshoot it in a breeze. Mechanical timing could be off, quite common on these engine for the timing chain guides to wear out. yes, how i understand it is that BMW only cursed Europe with these ones.. lol I just thought as the double vanos systems are in some of the 6 cylinders too you may have come across these faults. I replaced the eccentric shaft sensor and plugs and the challenge stopped when driving but it still idles rough. Other than the Vanos Solenoids, I don't know what else to change. So I'll clean these solenoids this weekend but wanted to ask, is it OK to use throttle body cleaner or some other product to clean the solenoids more completely, or is compressed air the only thing I should use on these things? Thank you! You will have to rotate the solenoid to free it. Haven't been driving the car as much recently and generally keep the tank full so wondering if it's just bad petrol/ I need a replacement part? I did plugs and coils a few weeks ago on my '06 325xi to troubleshoot a seeking cold idle issue and now I discovered this writeup for VANOS solenoids which was probably my issue to begin with! The VANOS actuator on each camshaft is supplied with engine oil under pressure; a solenoid controlled by the engine control module (ECM) retards or advances camshaft timing by modifying the supply of pressurized oil to the VANOS actuator. I can send more details if it's available. Don't have your vehicle here in the US, so I can't be too specific. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Please help me. would it be the exhaust crankcase? I have a couple thousand miles left on the warranty. As far as mechanical, you can check VANOS operation using a BMW scan tool. After it warms up,about 10 minutes of driving, it will not idle correctly and I hear a whining/whistling noise. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts. replacement guide of Mini VANOS actuator to remove and install, check engine light, and step by step on a 2012 Mini Cooper nonturbo. No , no lights , just the code stored i erase it and came again , may i buy new vanos sensors? Tensioner seems fine but I may change that just to be sure. im guessing its just one of the two solenoids maybe that should be cleaned/replaced. Hi, I have a 2005 E60 with N52 engine, and had some troubles lately. Took it to the dealer, said solenoids need to be replaced. They were able to confirm that the Vanos solenoids are covered under the 15 year/150k mile warranty. Thank you! Also the rpm is not regular. 287D Vanos inlet, actuator movement Created by: Johnnybgoood1 Forum Width: Forum Type: Post Reply Create new Topic Forum Settings Add to Favorites Edit Favorites Return to Forum Return to Forum Quote Post Reply Posted: Feb 22, 2022 06:09AM Can you swap tension spring from another location to eliminate that as a potential problem? Just trying to see if theres anything else I need to rectify to put my mind at ease before I get the car on the road. I drove it home since he said it might go away. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. I was very concerned about driving the vehicle in it's present condition. Applying a good amount of force on the bracket but no prevail. When it is warm is little bit better! I have got a BMW E90 325i 2006 with 238,000 km. Could be an issue with the fuel pump. What do you suspect? Cleaned the vanos solenoids and tested their coils and they were fine their coils both read 10.5 ohms on the digital multimeter. Possible coincidence of failure when taken in for repair as well. I get the feeling I may go back and forth with the dealer for a while. Can it happen only after 450 miles on it? Is the 2009 X3 similar to this in that you don't have to remove the valve cover in order to change the VANOS seals? Thoughts? This morning I followed this article and cleaned up the two solenoid valves. There is no sensor on the top of the valvetronic motor. Any tools/supplies other than the parts needed for this? See attached, circled in black. The sealing O-ring for the VANOS solenoid can also leak. Now parked. Permit Requests are Public Records Requests. If that doesn't do it, check mechanical engine timing. Could the codes just be a symptom of oil starvation? Is that the normal value? While driving the other day the car started bucking badly so I pulled over and the idle was pretty poor. I would start by checking the DME for fault codes. Thank you for your input. Swapped Vanos and cam sensors over and still no start and the error didnt swap from intake to exhaust side. I am sure they saw debris, etc, which is why they want it changed. Thanks Nick. Just replaced vanos due to mileage, but never had any issues. Is it Fuel pump related or does anyone know what could be causing this? Thanks for the feedback. If so, try replacing the engine oil and driving the vehicle, see if the fault returns. Thanks a lot! Fuel trim at idling & cruising is STFT 4% and LTFT 18% with bad fuel consumption. If you moved the solenoids around and the codes remained, you may have larger issues. Desired is where it should be at the moment. You can also with a pair of alligator ended jump cables test with 12 VDC no polarity neededthe solenoid open and close of the valve. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Best regards Fredrik, What and when are you using for the throttle data? Hi! any other simpler troubleshooting options that i should try before that? Please select one of the links below to schedule an Inspection or Request a Permit Extension.REQUEST A BUILDING INSPECTIONREQUEST A FIRE INSPECTION (FOR CONSTRUCTION)REQUEST A SOLAR INSPECTIONREQUEST FOR A PERMIT EXTENSIONREGISTER A VACANT PROPERTYCHECKLIST FOR SOLAR (PV) CONSTRUCTION. - Nick at Pelican Parts, E90 325 2006 service engine soon The fault code: 2A2E mixture control I replace: air mass, Intake manifold, Oil separator. Ordered new vanos, installed and cleared code. The boost issue could be a faulty turbocharger. A couple of months ago, the engine began "stumbling/missing/hesitating" a bit - but only when in higher gears like 3rd through 6th, only at lower RPMs, and only with a greater than normal load or when I'm accelerating hard. Don't have a reader so I'm going off their judgement. if so, it might be jamming. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Kept foot on clutch and it kept trying to auto restart. Seems like some sort of a sensor issue What is causing this? Can you please help? I have been told by a couple of mechanics that it could either be the VANOS needs cleaning/replacing or the timing chain has stretched. Got to destination about 5miles down the road and the idling became very rough and i ahit down the car before it stalled. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Since everything is new, the issue may be with the wiring or the DME. Some have suggested the throttle actuator or high pressure fuel pump but the other symptoms usually associated with these issues aren't present. I've got a weird issue where my fuel injector rail is making a hissing sound along with codes for my intake camshaft sensor and cylinder 3. If so, inspect components for looseness or noise. Spec: 2007, E90, N46. And what do I have to do for the code? Should hold steady. I just thought they must get oil in there anyway. I would check that the wiring isn't broken or shorted. - Nick at Pelican Parts, You mention replacing the fasteners. No SES light but I still get a 2A7A/not present DME variable camshaft timing control, exhaust, cold start and 2A7C/not present DME vanos inlet, cold start codes. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi there I have a 2008 e90 335i month ago got a 2a99 code and limp mode took it to the dealer changed oil and filter and spark plugs thy said hey couldn't find anything wrong with it the car was running fine month later got the same code turned the car on and off and half check engine went away runs fine Cleard the codes and now I did swap th vanos and cleaned them to see if that helps I just hope it isn't the bearing ledge I'm screwed than, If the code followed the swap, it is likely the solenoids. Sure enough a week later the check engine ligh comes on. i would need the P-codes or BMW specific descriptions to offer more advice. However, there is no limit excess for the CO emmission. If the solenoids were cleaned already, the issue is likely with the actuator. My questions are: 1. what is the difference between solenoid and actuator, 2. They should have that info. Maybe swap the solenoids first to see if the code changes. https://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/techarticles/BMW-3-Series-E90/FUEL-Eccentric_Shaft_Position_Sensor_Replacing/FUEL-Eccentric_Shaft_Position_Sensor_Replacing.htm - Nick at Pelican Parts. The car is not telling the computer anything. Managed to get it to run and get to work, but thinking it sounds like these solenoids? I resistance checked the servo motor too, which checked out - low ohms pin to pin and infinitely high pin to case. if crankcase pressure is too high, it could cause oil leaks. Now I am getting rough idle but only when the car is warm. The vehicle has 91k miles. Could be low fuel pressure or a VANOS issue. I had changed the oil recently so the level and condition is good. 287D vanos inlet actuator movement 287E vanos inlet actuator movement Does this sound like a Vanos solenoid? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi i have a bmw e60 n52 with code p0016. Now what can I do? The drivers door cannot be locked manually using the key outside but presiding the lock key control on the center of the dash locks all doors. SOMEONE HAS TOLD ME IT IS THE VENOS. and around 3k rpm I got a misfire code, said it was for multiple misfires so assumed dme error which upon next crank I got the 30ba mosfet error - no other codes. - Nick at Pelican Parts, I have a 2005 530i bought it brand new then recently it started to stall and bring out smoke after a month I took it to a mechanic who changed the oil separator he says was blocked the car refused to start after because the catalyst was blocked it was removed but now the car still smokes a little and stalls too what could be the problem, Could be a vacuum leak, fuel delivery issue or spark issue. Replacing the VANOS solenoids is similar for both. 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